Chapter 1: What highlights from Jermaine Pennant's career are discussed?
Hello and welcome to the Goals on Sunday podcast. Jermaine Pennant joins Cami and me on the sofa today to talk through all of the Premier League highlights and what has been an extraordinary career for him as well. Champions League finals, all sorts of different teams, forgetting where he parks his car and of course facing a Jeremy Kyle lie detector. Hope you enjoy this as much as Cami and I did.
Good morning to you, Jermaine. How are you doing? I'm fine, thank you. First things first, there's quite a lot of people that are very worried, including Rob Gilbert, that you've remembered where you parked your car.
Well, yes, at home, because I've got the train down.
It's been a busy summer. I interviewed you on Good Morning Britain because you've got your book out. We'll talk about that a little bit later on. And I said, how about you come on Goals on Sunday and come and talk to us about the book and football? And you said, oh, I might be a bit busy. I've got a few things.
Chapter 2: What was Jermaine's experience on Celebrity Big Brother?
I said, what are you going to do this summer? And you couldn't tell me. And it was Celebrity Big Brother, Jermaine.
Yeah, it was a shock really because obviously we got interviewed for it but we don't know if you've got the nod because there's so many people that are going for it and I thought it would be a good experience and a time and place where I'm not actively playing football so I thought I'd give it a bash. Did you enjoy it? Yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a great experience.
I wouldn't do it again. No. Hence why it's finished. No, but it was a good experience. It was tough as well. Are you literally locked up without phones and stuff like that? No phones, no TV, no clock. You have no idea what time it is.
Chapter 3: How does Jermaine describe the challenges of being in a reality show?
You don't know what time you're waking up, you don't know what time you're going to bed. Outside the world, you don't know nothing at all.
And do you completely forget that you're being watched? Because there come some controversial moments and some very personal moments as well. You're picking bits and pieces, your nose, your fingers, your toes.
Yeah, first week, it's like a game, so you think you're part of it. But as soon as the second week starts kicking, that's when the boredom starts to kick in. And then you don't realise that, oh, yeah, you're being watched 24-7, literally every movement you get.
Doesn't stop. Off the back of it, of course, you then famously appeared on Jeremy Kyle. I was speaking to Jeremy this week and he said it was a really great show. Thoroughly enjoyed you coming on. But you did refuse the lie detector, Jermaine. Absolutely. LAUGHTER Why?
Chapter 4: What insights does Jermaine share about his football career?
Well, there's a lot of lies I'm sold.
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we were expecting no no it was all it was all funny again it was all a joke um it was it was a good show jeremy i went on jeremy's radio station yes um and he said look would you come on the show um as a little celebrity little special i said you know what why not um get it out there get my my wife tell her part as well because she's not spoken about all the you know all the commotion that's been going on and you know she came out and said her piece which was great yeah it seemed quite relaxed with it all though there's no regrets
Oh, absolutely not. You know, I knew what it was when I was in there. I knew what was going on. But it's been perceived on the outside a lot worse, magnifying by 10. But it was just, you know, a good experience. Just me being me, unfortunately. Stepping the mark a little bit.
Yeah.
So all those people who tweeted this morning that we wouldn't ask him those questions, we have.
And he's answered them as well. More importantly, let's talk about football, because are you still playing? Jermaine, are you still available?
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Chapter 5: How did Jermaine transition from football to television work?
I'm still available, yeah.
I'm keeping fit. Anyone out there? Need a right winger? No, yeah, I'm still keeping fit. I'm not actively looking for seeking a club. I'm not officially retired. But I'm going to keep an eye on that.
So is the idea that if the right opportunity came along, you'd do that? Or are you interested in doing a bit more telework?
I'm enjoying TV work in a minute, so I'm definitely open for that as well. But like I say, if the right situation, the right move and the right offer comes along, then it's obviously something that I'll have to think about.
Would you be fit enough?
I'm a fit guy. I've always had that lucky charm where I can lay back on pre-season and get through it through the season.
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Chapter 6: What is Jermaine's perspective on youth involvement in gangs?
So yeah, I'm fit.
And what about leagues? Would you go Championship League 1 or would you go north of the border up to Scotland?
Yeah, definitely Scotland, yeah. I was there for a month or six weeks with Hibs, and pre-season it was, and I really enjoyed it. Edinburgh's a lovely place, a great, great club, great city, and I enjoyed it there.
Is it harder the lower down you go, say at Billericay, trying to be able to perform?
It is difficult, because not only... Is it the limelight's all on you? Sometimes it's harder to other people to be on your wavelength. So you may do a pass and they don't read it and it makes you look bad, but they're not aware of it. So the lower you go, it does get difficult. That's crazy, it seems, but it does get harder.
And what about football? Do you follow a team now?
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Chapter 7: How does Jermaine reflect on his debut with Notts County?
Have you got a team that you would say was your favourite?
As a kid, it was Liverpool, obviously. So now, it's still Liverpool. Is it? It's still Liverpool. But obviously, the teams that I spent the longest at was Stoke. I've got a soft spot for them because I live in Shropshire now, so around the corner from Stoke. So Stoke and Liverpool. And obviously, being at Arsenal from a kid, so I'm like a bit of a glory in a way. I've got three teams.
Liverpool, North County and Birmingham. North County, I mean. I think I gave up on them when I was 16.
Jermaine Pennant is our guest this morning. You've seen quite a lot of him over the summer at various reality TV shows.
Chapter 8: What were Jermaine's thoughts on the Champions League final?
One of the reasons was that he's written this book, which is a tale all about your life, your career, mental bad behaviour, ugly truths and the beautiful game. Very well received this has been, Jermaine.
Oh, glad to hear.
I hope so.
John Cross, who I know very well here. Yeah, he's a good man. We spent about two and a half years, started writing when I was in Singapore. We'd have a conversation once a week for about three hours on the phone. Didn't help my phone bill, but yeah.
Could you remember everything?
Yeah. For some reason, I've got a good memory of my upbringing, you know, the mistakes I've made, what I've been through in my career. So it's like, you know, it was all yesterday. So when I was having the conversation, it slipped off the tongue.
It was easy. I've read the book, and one of the things that strikes you is that you're very honest. You're a very open person. Jermaine, you've been very open all the way through, but this opening line in here, I think, sort of sets it all up. I grew up on a tough estate in Nottingham, the Meadows. It wasn't so much working class, more what people might call lower class. That's the simple truth.
I think that if I'd been different upbringing, my mum and dad had always been on the scene, then I would have played for England. I would have had a bigger career for sure. I've had a good career. I'm not unhappy, but I could have done more. I know that. I'm the first to admit it.
That's the sort of stark reality of your upbringing, that when you look back and you're an adult now, that you realise that your home and the situation at home was so dysfunctional that you never really had the structure that would have enabled you to achieve all the things that perhaps people look at your career and say you should have achieved.
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