Sky Sports Premier League Podcast
The Football Show – Smith, Pope, Murray, Arteta and Lescott
12 Jun 2020
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of today's Football Show?
Good morning and welcome along. This is the Football Show and today we will be joined live by the Arsenal head coach Mikel Arteta. Not only that, we'll also be speaking to Jolyon Lescott, Matt Murray and Millwall manager Gary Rowett coming up in just a moment.
We will be hearing too from Burnley keeper Nick Pope and alongside me for the duration of the show we have Alan Smith and Andy Hinchcliffe. Good morning to both of you. Alan, I'll come to you first because... We have Mikel Arteta on and that is a huge guest. We're very much excited to catch up with him and see how preparations are going for the new season.
Last night, one of their friendly games to get them warmed up and ready was against Brentford. They lost 3-2. But in these kind of situations, Alan, what are these fixtures used for and how important are those results really?
Well, it's disappointing to lose, isn't it? But I remember in pre-season, if you can relate it to that, sometimes you're quite pleased if you lost your last game before the big kick-off. But it's not so much about the result, Laura, as about the performance and, more importantly, the fitness, the sharpness of your players, because we're not far away now, are we, from that kick-off.
So he'll be looking at the fitness. I see he made a lot of changes at half-time, so he wants to give everybody a good run-out. Yeah, of course you want to win, but... He's looking ahead to next week and formulating that he wants to start psychologically as well as physically. So I think that's the main concern for Mikel Arteta, more than the fact that they lost to a championship team.
Andy, the Merseyside derby has been confirmed that it won't be played at a neutral venue. It will go ahead at Goodison Park. In terms of the atmosphere that we normally expect at a Merseyside derby, it's going to be completely different with no fans. So how important is the venue? How important does the venue become in this fixture?
Yeah, it's really strange. Thankfully, all the safety issues have been kind of sorted out. And it's vital Merseyside derbies are played within the city. That's what all the fans would have wanted. So it's good to see this being played at Goodison Park. But I remember when I played in Merseyside derbies for Everton, home advantage was important.
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Chapter 2: How is Mikel Arteta preparing for the new season?
Of course, playing at Goodison, you know the environment. Home fans were a huge advantage as well. They really got behind you. They were the 12th man and you needed that sometimes in those games. So for us, I think the lack of fans is the big problem there. Being at home is great. Lack of fans is a big problem.
So I feel that Liverpool probably have the advantage going into the game, but it's the first game back. We're not sure about fitness levels of all the players, how they're going to respond to the empty stadiums. There's a lot of questions unanswered, but I'm just really pleased that the game is being played in the city.
Absolutely. Now we can introduce our first guest of the football show this morning, and it is Mobile Manager Gary Rauert. Gary, good morning. Thanks for joining us. How are you?
Morning, everyone. All good, thank you. You all OK? Morning, Gary.
We're all right, thank you. I'll get straight in there. June the 20th, football is kicking back up in the Championship. How did you feel about that date and how prepared do you feel for it?
We're still fairly prepared. I think everyone's going to be an element of being unsure about how their players are going to cope with the games coming so quickly. But I think for the last four or five weeks, you know, if you've read most of the recent stories, you had a good idea that it was going to kick off around this time.
Of course, when the Premier League announced that they were going to kick off on the 17th of June, you always felt as though the following weekend would probably be a good starting point. So, yeah, certainly here at Millwall, we're ready and raring to go. I think the players have had long enough training on their own and training in small groups.
And I think they're just looking forward to getting back to some form of action, albeit it's going to be a little bit strange.
Gary, have they all come back in similar conditions or is it a bit of a range? Have they been keeping on top of their fitness as much as you'd like?
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Chapter 3: What insights does Nick Pope share about goalkeeping?
Home advantage, you know, is not an advantage quite clearly. But certainly from my point of view, I mean, I watched the Bayer Leverkusen, Bayern Munich game and obviously they had the sort of they had the sort of fake crowd in there. They had the crowd noise and it was probably, it felt like the tempo was higher in the game.
So I think it just shows you how important, I think we're all realizing, aren't we just how important the fans are and how integral to the game, you know, as, as players, sometimes, you know, we probably all say the same, you know, you couldn't really hear the crowd or you weren't really aware of some of the comments from the crowd or the atmosphere, but actually when you take it away,
you realize just how, you know, it is virtually the whole game. And that's going to be the hardest bit. But I think, you know, certainly the players will be chomping at the bit and whatever the game is, you know, we're going to try and give it our best shot to see if we can continue to good form.
I mean, if you hadn't had a break, Gary, you'd have been more sure, wouldn't you, of your starting XI, probably from one game to the next. But given we have had this long pause, does that complicate things in terms of picking who you think's ready?
I think, yeah, I mean, yeah, complicated in some ways. But I think also, I think the players are all aware that, you know, it's probably been nearly three months since we've last had a league game. So, you know, it's longer than pre-season almost. Pre-season, you'd come back, it'd be like a new season. You pick whoever you feel can affect the first few games.
And it might also be that the first sort of few teams you pick, is based on who you think can give you that energy in those games. But, you know, certainly players, I'm sure the likes of Matt Smith, who scored a hat-trick in the last game against Forest, you know, it'll still feel as though, you know, he should be starting the first game. So it'd be really interesting.
I think we'll have to make those decisions based on who's available. And no one's going to know if they're going to be right.
Gary, it was such a crucial time as well of the season for your playoff push for this break to happen. Let's have a little look at the table where you stand at the moment. You're very, very close to those playoff positions at the moment. You can see you're sat in eighth at the moment, 54 points, just two points off of Preston. How important is this time now?
You come back, you're going to have to hit the ground running.
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Chapter 4: How does the Merseyside derby atmosphere change without fans?
All we talk about is we've got a fantastic opportunity and a really exciting last nine games. And my theory really is we've just got to go for it. We've got to go for it in the last nine games and we'll see what happens. And it won't be for a lack of desire or a lack of drive and a lack of wanting to try and make it happen. So, yeah, we're really looking forward to it.
And as I said, we're all going to learn an awful lot about the last nine games in a very, very different situation.
Well, these are the last nine games that Millwall have to play, kicking off with Derby on the 20th. It's a home fixture for you. On paper, all of these teams are below you in the table, but how difficult is it to focus on these game by game and just remind yourselves that almost every game is equally as important and equally as difficult as the ones you've already played?
Well, it is. I mean, the good thing for us is that our record is actually probably a lot better against the top sides than it is against the bottom sides. We're certainly not in any way looking at the position some of those teams are in and thinking that there's any better an opportunity than there would if we were playing the top nine teams in the league.
So, you know, we're a pretty humble group. And also, I think that, you know, where teams are in the league or where they were in the league, you know, what form they were in,
is irrelevant you know it's three months ago you know i think playing any team in a division is going to be an equal challenge and some teams are going to cope a lot better than than other teams you know it's quite evident so so it'd be really interesting to see how it goes but yeah we'll certainly take it one game at a time
And Gary, coaches always talk about the team being successful. It's everyone pulling together. But I just wanted to talk about one kind of individual at Millwall, Jed Wallace, who was in my championship team of the season. He's had an incredible season individually. When you went into Millwall, did you maybe change the formation, the playing style to get the best out of Jed Wallace?
Because he's been truly outstanding for you.
Yeah, I think the first thing, the fact you had him in your team, Hinchy, shows your football knowledge is absolutely excellent. It's the first time for everything. Which I knew when I played with you all those years ago at Everton, when you used to cross them in and I used to miss them.
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Chapter 5: What challenges does Gary Rowett face with Millwall's return?
But, you know, the likes of some teams like, you know, like a Derby and I've done it as Derby manager coming to Millwall where you don't really look forward to coming to the den. You know, the dressing rooms are tight. You know that sometimes a pitch maybe is not going to be as good as it could be. The atmosphere is going to be electric and quite intimidating.
And you've taken all those things away. So it's going to be very different for the way teams come in here. And it's also going to be very different for us. But ultimately, you know, it's going to be 11 players against 11 players or 16 players against 16 players because of the new substitution rules. And it's just going to be a game. You know, it's going to be a fair game.
It's going to be about who, you know, can cope with the new surroundings the best. And obviously you need to hit the ground running pretty quickly because, you know, you miss, you know, it takes you two or three weeks to find form. You're talking about five or six games gone. So you have to hit the ground running quickly.
I probably know what your answer is going to be, Gary, but how optimistic are you that you can end up in the playoffs? And if you were to end up in the playoffs... Would that have been what you thought could happen when you stepped in at Millwall? Because there's a huge challenge there following Neil Harris. To get to the playoffs would be an incredible achievement, wouldn't it?
Yeah, I mean, I think our initial thought process was just to try and stabilize the team and not be in a relegation fight and maybe be a mid-table team in terms of, you know, being able to look up, but rather than worrying about what's behind us. And I felt at times, because of the size of the...
size of the club and where they've been sort of in the previous few years I felt as though maybe there was an edge of you know if one of the bottom three teams lost there was a real pleasure in it because we weren't going to get dragged down into those levels so I tried to change that mentality in terms of perhaps being a little more ambitious in our thought process but
But we've not really spoke about playoffs. The players will, of course. Our form since we've come in has been playoff form. So I think they've showed they're capable of it. But I think we're entering into, you know, like I said, a unique nine games where you just have to tick each one off. And whatever happens in each game, you just have to learn very quickly and try to respond very quickly.
And, you know, we're, of course, in a good position. But so are, you know, for example, Derby, I think, are about five places behind us. But if they beat us in the first game, they go level on points. So, you know, it's not at the minute. I don't think you're going to get too carried away. And
And I think we're just focusing on trying to prepare properly for what's going to be some really weird games.
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Chapter 6: How has the COVID-19 pandemic affected player fitness?
He was, you know, a really top, top goalkeeper.
brilliant Southampton as well wasn't it Calvin yeah Southampton yeah so they were two that I kind of got to you know really watch live in the ground a lot so they were two you know great people to watch and learn from at that time and then going online more into the Premier League obviously Peter Cech was an unbelievable one when he first came to the league I think set all sorts of records of clean sheets and you know minutes that I conceded and he was he was someone that I really enjoyed to watch and also a little bit for me he's kind of goalkeepers of
you know, similar size and, you know, build, I think it would be harder for me to take some stuff from, you know, goalkeepers that might be six foot and, you know, really, you know, springy and really quick. Well, you're 6'6".
You're 6'6", Nick. Yeah.
Yeah. So that's something that it's easier to, you know, imagine myself and to build things into my game from goalkeepers that, yeah, are similar size.
What are the disadvantages then? Or what are the challenges of being a big goalkeeper? I know that sounds odd because you sound like you're the perfect size for a keeper. You need to be big to be a keeper, we hear. But what are the challenges that come with it?
I think growing up, you...
struggle with kicking generally you know you've got long limbs and your your brain's almost not up to date with how to use them properly so you know your feet are a long way from your head and also like and you know footwork just around the goal as well when you're a little bit you know what's a bambi on ice like um you know because your mechanics are a bit slower and you kind of
your brain might be thinking quicker than your legs to move kind of thing so they're all challenges growing up and you kind of you build into your shape if you like as you kind of as you grow up and through the years you know you get bigger you get bigger and stronger and that strength you can't really have as like as a young lad you can kind of build in and and get that and you know work on your footwork and your coordination and and that all you know comes together really nicely
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Chapter 7: What strategies do players use to adapt to empty stadiums?
I was really lucky that the college I went to had a really good football scheme and something where we trained nearly every day and there was loads of games as well and great coaches as well. I didn't fall into it, but it's something that in hindsight worked out unbelievably well for myself and fitted me to the team.
And just going through some of the clubs, you'll have to fill in the list for me, but Aldershot, Welling, York, Bury Town, Bury.
What have I missed? Harrow.
Harrow Borough was my first kind of loan. What did you learn there at Harrow? Um... I don't know. I was really lucky at Harrah, actually. I went to a club, Dave Anderson was manager and he was the goalkeeper and really understood my situation and what I wanted to be.
So he helped me loads and encouraged me to be confident and not worry about mistakes, even though playing as a 19-year-old with everyone else is an adult, really, mid-20s, 30s. So I kind of brush it off and move on. He's really good at giving me confidence. I remember I played my first game for him and I think we lost 1-0 to Met Police away. Your fault for the goal? No, the penalties.
And I didn't give it away, I'm sure. It might say different. And then the last minute, a cross came in the box and I went out for it and I dropped it. I didn't score from it and we cleared it. We spoke after the game and he just said to me, look, that didn't happen. I'm going to write a report on you every week to your goalkeeper coach at Charlton.
And that one guy I mentioned, you know, you played really well and I want you to be positive and stay on the front foot always because that's what helps out most of the team. So right from the get-go, you know, that was my first game and he had me, you know, right on his side.
So someone that I was really indebted to and really lucky to have him as my manager, my first spell out on mine away from, you know, a League One club.
I'm sure you've been asked this sort of question a lot, but having had those experiences, does it then make running on against Palace like you did for your Premier League debut, playing for England, do all those things become that much more special?
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Chapter 8: What does Mikel Arteta hope to achieve this season?
When we talk about vital goalkeepers and goalkeepers who've been shining so far this season, Dean Henderson is at the top of a number of people's lists as well. What about Dean Henderson? What are your thoughts on him and the way he plays?
So very different goalkeeper to Nick Pope. Dean's are probably only about six at one, six foot two, but he's super quick. Again, makes big saves. He's got that mentality, believes in himself. I mean, look at that save there. He made it look easy. And the way he gets around his goal, he palms to good areas. Anytime he's made a mistake, he's always bounced back.
And again, he came on my radar, alone at Grimsby, then at Shrewsbury, and kept progressing, progressing. Made mistakes at Villa Park last season, but then grew back. Mistake against Liverpool earlier this season. You see that save there, though, at Anfield. He is so good. He's super quick. He makes the saves. His distribution's good. As I say, different goalkeeper to Nick Pope.
very young man only just turned 23 but I feel he has to stay out you know finish the season Sheffield United if he's not going to go back to Manchester United and play to continue his loan but for them to be pushing at Europe his first season in the Premier League he's played in European you know in tournaments for England at youth level and in the Premier League he's been top top draw and then just even then just right at the end against Norwich the the last game before the lockdown he's
He made some big saves at the end. So, yeah, I'm very, very impressed with Dean Henderson. He's a character, comes across very differently to Nick Pope, but a very, very effective goalkeeper.
That connection will keep coming up because he's on loan at Manchester United. Do you think he would be a good fit to go back and replace De Gea whenever that may happen, if that may happen?
I think when the time comes. So David De Gea has still been one of the best goalkeepers in the Premier League. Last season maybe wasn't quite to the levels, or I say last season before the break and even the season before, not quite to the levels that we're used to. But David De Gea still is a top goalkeeper. He's signed that long-term deal. So he's an asset to the club.
But I think if Dane Henderson isn't going to play, and I don't think he will, I think Manchester United, especially in the current market, will keep the hair. Then I think it's important that what's happening with Chris Wilde at Sheffield United, he needs to stay out, keep playing, but with another full season.
I think he would be ready but then he has to go back and perform we saw with Ben Foster did so well when he was on loan at Watford but it didn't quite happen for Manchester United and it is a different you know a different situation and Ben Foster proved to be one of the best Premier League goalkeepers so
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