Chapter 1: What happened in the Manchester City vs Tottenham match?
Well, at Manchester City this evening, it finished 2-2. City led early on in the game. Tottenham came back into it twice, but then City thought they had the winning goal right at the death of the game. In stoppage time, they had the ball in the net, but it was disallowed, having been checked by the VAR for handball by Aymeric Laporte.
Chapter 2: How did VAR influence the outcome of the game?
That is the deciding moment in the game. However, the story of the match itself was pretty one-sided. Not too much in it as far as possession was concerned, but 30 attempts by Manchester City. That's only the second time that Tottenham have faced 30 or more shots against them since Opta began records. Ten shots for Manchester City on target, just two for Tottenham, and they were the goals.
Expected goals, that controversial metric.
Chapter 3: What were the stats and performance metrics for both teams?
Three expected goals for Manchester City, just 0.2 for Tottenham. Let's get the thoughts of Tottenham goalkeeper Hugo Lloris. He's with Patrick Davison.
Guys, well done. Hugo, firstly, another crazy moment for you here, another VAR moment for you here. Just what happened from your perspective?
I don't know, to be honest, I saw it was goal. The way the referee took his decision, I think it was 100% and then with the VAR they cancelled the goal. I think it's a bit unlucky for City. Anyone can have a different interpretation, no? this clip, but I think we are very pleased with the point because we made so much effort.
Lucas deserves a lot of credit because after a few seconds he scored the second goal and showed his personality and his character.
Just on that VAR moment, we just saw a shot of you talking to the referee. What's being said there?
I don't know. I'll just ask him what's happening now and then I had a look to the big screen and then we realised that there was a handball. OK, it's good for us and a little bit unlucky for City, but there's plenty of games ahead. So we just need to enjoy now the moment. Lucas, what is that moment like?
Presumably you think they've scored, the game's lost and then something's happened. Does it almost feel like a goal? Is it that good?
Yeah, it was crazy. It was in the last minute and the goal, I thought that's finished. But this kind of action is so difficult to see. Only the VAR can see and thank you for it. and I think we played very well. We made a two-month F4, like Hugo said, and it's a good result for us because we know how difficult it is to play here.
I think that's the game, that's the spirit we need to keep and a lot more games to come.
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Chapter 4: What did Hugo Lloris say about the controversial VAR decision?
And all of a sudden it came from nowhere, just disbelief. But we're going to get more of that. It's the first time I've seen VAR in the last minute of a game like that where it's just shocked everybody in the stadium. We know it's happened in the Champions League last season. Matter of fact, now, if it hits the arm on the way to a goal, it will be disallowed, so you could argue that it is right.
There's no doubt about that, but the Tottenham fans in that corner were... absolutely jumping wildly like they'd scored. And the City fans, I mean, I've just been walking out through them there, I'll say walking down through them, and they can't believe it. They're shocked. And Pep Guardiola's interview will be interesting.
It will be very interesting. We'll bring that to you as soon as we have it. Let's take a look at the incident itself that led to the goal being disallowed. Jamie, the law has been clarified this season about handball and that if there is any contact that leads to a goal at any phase, then it will be disallowed.
Intentionally, unintentionally. I think that is what the law is now. But that strike, that's such a harsh decision. And what I find amazing is not one Tottenham player complains. Even Oliver Skipp, that is the closest to Laporte, as he scores, not one player even complains, looks at the referee. It's just that feeling of you've lost the game and there's nothing you can do.
It is an extremely harsh one. I mean, VAR is going to add so much to the game because it's going to make the game fairer. But that one for me is, whoever, I mean, both players have gone for the ball. I think Skip puts his arm up, Laporte. It's an extremely harsh decision. Whether Villarreal got to the right one, it seems with the letter of the law, yes. But I still think that's really harsh.
And Man City, and I'm sure Pep Guardiola, every single City player in there will be believing. How has that goal been disallowed?
If you remember back to last season, one of the reasons maybe this was brought in was Boli. If you remember the Wolves goal where he scored against Manchester City. So it will go back and forward. There you go. There's the rule.
So even if it's accidental, that is the pertinent point of it, is that even if it's accidental, if the ball goes into the goal... I think I know someone who's going to come over now that will like that rule when he walks over.
Let's have a chat, because I'm sure he'll be delighted with the rule.
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Chapter 5: What was Gary Neville's perspective on the match atmosphere?
They have to fix it, so the decision is obviously tough for you to take. Is it also wrong?
No, at VAR, yes, here. So the whistle now inside, the image is not quite clear, but if they believe it's hands, sometimes it's hands in the Champions League. For Llorente, sometimes it's not hands. So that is where it is. But it's now. Now we have to punish. You have to accept it and keep going from here.
But when you say fix it, is the problem the VAR or is the problem the new handball law?
So I don't know. So it was in the beginning, it was a penalty from Broderick in the first half, incredible. And the referee said, no, I know VAR and VAR don't accept that to review and the last minute review, so... So I don't know, believe me. So all we can do is play in that way and the others, when they take that decision, accept it and move forward.
So I'm pretty sure the people was happy today. And we have to work in our chances that we had to score more goals.
What did you make of the goals you conceded today? You seemed very animated, very cross, even before the corner came in for Tottenham's second goal.
Sorry?
You seemed quite animated, quite upset at the conceding of the corner that then led to Tottenham.
They crossed the half-line maybe four or five, six times in 90 minutes, so not too much. So it was a well-defended, organised... to a manager, and that is what it is. So with corners happen, so good takers and good headers. So it's not our strength points, we work on that, but... we score one goal, he would disallow it. So that's all.
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Chapter 6: How did the disallowed goal affect Manchester City players?
It's his biggest friend. Man City, obviously not loving it, but during the course of the season, you'll get some and you won't. And even first half, Gary, I mean, I agree with you in commentary. I mean, that for me was a definite VAR moment that should have been overturned.
It should. I mean, if I was Pep Guardiola, if I was the referees back in Stockley Park, I think I would be happy with the fact that they've got the second one right. Sorry, the third goal was disallowed. This one for me, I think the referee in Stockley Park has to be stronger here.
I know that they've said that it has to be clear and obvious to be able to overrule the on-field referee, but for me that is clear and obvious. And they've got to have the nerve... And the courage to say, no, that's a penalty. We've not quite seen that yet.
And it's something that I felt that day when I travelled to Stockley Park with Jamie Carragher to do that sort of, if you like, understanding of what it was going to be. And I sensed that they weren't keen on overruling the referee on the pitch, which is right.
Well, the referee has the final...
He does, but they have to overrule that. I think they have to overrule that.
He can't overrule because the referee on the pitch has the final say, but if Michael Oliver says, I saw the incident and I don't believe it's a penalty, the VAR can't award the penalty.
I did the same thing as Gary. I went and spoke to the referees, and there are elements of you which I absolutely love, but what would be wrong with them saying to Michael, just go and have a look at it yourself. Just take a breath, go and have a look at it. That's what we got it for. And I understand we don't want a situation where, like,
in the US where they use it all the time and they quite like the theatre of it. But something like that really just takes someone back at Stockley Park to be strong enough to say, just stop the game for a minute, go and have a look at it and make your own decision from there. Because they got that one wrong. And so far they've got pretty much everything right.
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