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Small Town Murder

Like An Evil Onion - Whitewater, Colorado

18 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.47 - 28.333 Professor Devi Sridhar

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29.528 - 44.736 James Pietragallo

This week in Whitewater, Colorado, a brutally murdered man sparks an investigation that shows that someone may have been after him for a while, even trying to blow up his car weeks before. But a threatening note to his widow blows the case wide open. Welcome to Small Town Murder.

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Hello everybody and welcome back to Small Town Murder. Yay!

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62.546 - 78.958 James Pietragallo

Yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you folks so much for joining us today on another absolutely crazy, trust me, edition of Small Town Murder. I believe it. Not that we, you know.

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78.938 - 97.034 James Pietragallo

ever not we don't ever deliver a non-crazy one you know there's so much murder that's just mailed in this one yeah not taking a whole lot you know a whole lot of care with this one Not real interesting, and we just threw it together. So here it is. We're busy this week. We're real busy. No, crazy story coming up. We will get to that.

97.134 - 102.683 James Pietragallo

Before we do, absolutely head over to ShutUpAndGiveMeMurder.com. Fine. Everything there.

Chapter 2: What are the key events surrounding the murder in Whitewater, Colorado?

102.723 - 123.538 James Pietragallo

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It's just fantastic, and the shows are always great there. It's a good time. Then the next day we'll be in Minneapolis, which is one of our favorite places to play as well. We love it there. We'll be at the State Theater there. Get your tickets now. Milwaukee's outselling you guys. You can't let that happen. Get in there, Minneapolis. Then also September 3rd, Dallas. September 16th, San Jose.

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141.309 - 164.698 James Pietragallo

The 17th in Sacramento. and then in November the 13th and 14th in Tarrytown, New York, and Boston. So get your tickets right now and get in there and see us. Shut up and give me murder.com, as well as listen to our other shows, Crime in Sports. If you are into cults and murders, you're going to love what we're doing right now, a multi-part series on the Yahweh ben Yahweh cult. It's crazy.

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164.758 - 185.767 James Pietragallo

All the murders. We get into a lot of detail there. And then your stupid opinions is absolutely hilarious. And you just have to hear it. It's crazy. And then on top of that, get Patreon. My God, what are you waiting for? Patreon.com slash crime in sports is where you get all of the bonus material. All you have to be is $5 a month or above.

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185.927 - 198.934 James Pietragallo

That has not gone up in 10 years, and it is not going to go up. $5 a month or above, and you get everything we put out. And I'm talking about everything. As soon as you subscribe, you're going to get hundreds of back bonus episodes you've never heard before. Immediately, it's upon subscription.

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Then you're going to get new ones every other week, one crime and sports, one small-town murder, and you get them all. That's it. This week, what you're going to get for crime and sports, we're going to talk about hostage situations. Fantastic. We did the Stockholm one, and it's so interesting, the dynamics that go on in a hostage breakdown. So we're really going to check that out.

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Then for small-town murder, Corey Richens, part three. Oh! Her sentencing happened, and it wasn't just a mere sentencing. Her kids' statements came in, which contradict everything she said happened that night. Yeah. They talk about being forced to eat uncooked lasagna and all this crazy stuff from her. And then she does an allocution. That's crazy, too. So it's wild. Corey Richens. Yes, she is.

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Corey Richens, part three. So that's patreon.com slash crime in sports. And on top of all of that, you get all the shows we put out. Crime and sports, your stupid opinion, small town murder, all ad free with your Patreon. And ad free. Oh, wait, there's more. There's more, Jimmy. What's that?

256.319 - 275.805 James Pietragallo

Oh, on top of that, you get a shout-out at the end of the show where Jimmy will try his hardest to pronounce your name correctly. And if it's Malachi, he'll get it right, as we found out from your stupid opinions, whereas I will call you Malachi. So there you go. That said, disclaimer time. This is a comedy show. Sure is. We're comedians.

Chapter 3: What details are revealed about the victim's background?

498.957 - 505.55 James Pietragallo

Horrible. Guac is never free. Never. Always. Always two bucks, too. Not even 75 cents.

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505.951 - 515.11 Jimmie Whisman

Two bucks. They never make a mistake and you get something free. They always charge you double for something. Always. I only got two drinks. I only got one drink.

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515.09 - 522.226 James Pietragallo

Oh, and I didn't even order this kind. Perfect. And I got charged twice for it. That's a curse. That's what I mean. Minor annoyances. That'll drive somebody crazy.

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522.246 - 526.596 Jimmie Whisman

They'll lose their fucking mind. Every time you go for a soda, it's always Orange Crush.

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526.776 - 530.445 James Pietragallo

Always. I don't want that. I mean, sometimes, once in a while, but not every day.

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From time to time.

530.986 - 557.093 James Pietragallo

Not every day. Yeah. So there's another one, the Grand Mesa Thunderbirds. Ute legend holds it that giant thunderbirds, massive eagle-like birds, once lived atop Grand Mesa. And these powerful creatures ruled the skies. And the thunderbirds attacked a Ute village and carried off children, which they'd have to be some pretty big birds to carry off a child. Thunderbird never existed, right?

557.113 - 558.334 James Pietragallo

No, I don't think so.

558.515 - 559.896 Jimmie Whisman

I don't think so. I think it's legend.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of grief discussed in the podcast?

3545.083 - 3564.327 James Pietragallo

Your brain can't process it. Yeah. And by the way, too, I've heard somebody said from a few weeks ago that I don't know anything about grief because I said that someone needs to move on with their life. And it's like, fuck you. Look, man, tell me that. Tell me about grief, motherfucker. I don't care. Yeah. What are you talking about?

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3564.347 - 3572.204 James Pietragallo

I lost, like, my two best friends who were young within a year and a half of each other in tragic ways. Like, I've had plenty. Fuck you.

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3572.224 - 3584.149 Jimmie Whisman

Sometimes tragic shit like that hardens your heart to the world and you don't want to, you know what I mean? Sometimes you just got to go, well, what am I going to fucking sit here and not pay my bills? Thank you. There's shit to do.

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3584.129 - 3600.071 James Pietragallo

I got – exactly because it's enough already and that's what it is. If you gain enough grief, it's not a shock to you anymore and you get – you react to it differently and that's – I'm not saying that's good or bad. I'm just saying, you know, don't judge my grief. That's just what it is. Don't judge how I fucking – yeah.

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3600.091 - 3619.259 Jimmie Whisman

Everybody grieves different too. That's like the – that's a common thing that people say but it's true that – Look, man, I'm going to my advice to you when you're grieving is going to be calm the fuck down. Tomorrow's another day, too. You know, you got to get through it. You got to get through this. Are you going to fucking melt into a ball in the corner? What's wrong with you?

3619.54 - 3639.209 James Pietragallo

No, but I did weird shit in that during that period. I was I had a fucking career like I made movies. I had a thing. I won festivals. I had like actually like some heat thing and I directed. Yeah. And I just, I shut it all. I didn't do anything. I said, I'm not doing this anymore, basically. And I went and started serving fucking papers. I did that for like three years.

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And then I said to like 2012, I was like, what am I doing? This is a miserable fucking life. And I'm making myself miserable because I was miserable because those people were involved in the things I was doing with me. And then I was like, I got to go do comedy again. I have to do it. So then I went to comedy and then I met you. And here we are.

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Life just happens.

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That's how it happened. I wouldn't be here if those things didn't happen.

Chapter 5: What strange events occur surrounding Alan and Miriam's relationship?

3660.281 - 3660.762 James Pietragallo

I really wouldn't.

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3661.303 - 3661.683 Jimmie Whisman

Yeah.

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3661.703 - 3667.533 James Pietragallo

Because I would have been making films and not doing comedy, and it would have been a totally different path and, you know, just different.

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3668.274 - 3678.792 Jimmie Whisman

And the way we react to things sometimes creates one door closes, another opens. That's it. These old cliches, they sometimes fucking right on the nose, goddammit.

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3679.173 - 3683.38 James Pietragallo

Yeah. Don't worry. When God makes your knee hurt, he kicks you in the ass. You know that old saying.

3683.4 - 3684.081 Jimmie Whisman

Have it. Figure it out.

3686.605 - 3708.446 James Pietragallo

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Chapter 6: What evidence suggests foul play in Alan's death?

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That's D O S E D A I L Y dot C O slash small town for 35% off your first month subscription. Now back to the show. So anyway, Tim, the brother, said that Jack couldn't tie his shoes with his right hand, which no one can tie their shoes with one hand. Everybody requires two hands to tie shoes is the thing, which is a very strange thing. I'm very right-handed, James.

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3845.925 - 3848.068 James Pietragallo

If I tried to tie a shoe with that hand.

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3848.549 - 3851.814 Jimmie Whisman

Just that hand. I'm walking around with untied shoes.

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3852.155 - 3870.666 James Pietragallo

Yeah. No shit. A lot. Now, Jack and Miriam's son, who was home the night this happened, has a different thing. He believes that his dad did shoot himself and did shoot himself with his right hand as well. He said that Jack had broken a few years ago.

3870.706 - 3889.696 James Pietragallo

He said Jack might have been very left-handed before, but Jack broke his left arm a few years ago and had to wear a cast for a long time and could do nothing with his left hand. So he learned to do everything with his right hand. How about that? He was very ambidextrous by the end of it. Amazing. He would write with his right hand sometimes just because it was convenient.

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He said the right-handed suicide, definitely not impossible. And the son said he heard the shot and he heard his mother come running out of the house screaming and said, that's how it happened. Like, what are we talking about? So 2004, Miriam persists. She's having problems. Now she's single and she's not doing well financially.

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She gets busted in Florida for a counterfeit check cashing scheme that she's doing, which is not great, obviously. She had an AKA even. Her alias was Francesa Giles Giles.

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Francesa.

Chapter 7: What evidence linked Miriam to Alan's murder?

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That's part of it.

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7397.592 - 7398.633 Jimmie Whisman

You got to pay your bills.

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You got to pay your bills. So then they go to the computers now. They take Miriam's computer and they found over 180 searches related to Alan's medications.

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Now, mind you, there's no poison in the system or anything like that. The gunshot wound is the death. She searched Ambien overdose. She searched Viagra overdose. Oh. Your dick explodes. It's just boom. Like Porky's Rifle. That's it. Yeah, it's all frayed on the end. It's Elmer Fudd, isn't it? Yeah, whatever. It's Elmer Fudd, yeah, but I get what you meant. I saw him. They're similar looking.

7437.238 - 7464.278 James Pietragallo

They're the same guy. Same dude, yeah. So she also, she searched that what happens when you mix Ambien and Viagra if you have heart problems, because she knows he's got heart issues. Dang, that's a sleepy boner. Then she searched poisoning methods. Uh-huh. Ways of poisoning people that are undetectable, less detectable, and all that kind of shit. It's wild.

7465.762 - 7471.715 Jimmie Whisman

If this is true, this woman went through all the trouble in the world and was like, fuck it, I'm going to shoot him.

Chapter 8: What were the key findings from the investigation?

7473.178 - 7474.461 Jimmie Whisman

Exactly, yeah.

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7474.745 - 7487.697 James Pietragallo

Wow. So the computer, by the way, was a gateway, which is just if you want a little blast from the past with the cow spots and all that shit. Those cow spots are amazing. They had whole giant stores full of those fucking things. That's insane.

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7487.997 - 7491.3 Jimmie Whisman

The box that showed up was all cow print. It was all big cow print.

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7492.461 - 7513.163 James Pietragallo

So this computer was Miriam's computer and showed the repeated internet searches, but overdosing on the drugs he already had and different fucking ways to make it. She even... searched for how to put a horse down at home. Oh, you monster. They presumed that that was for him, not the horse. There's no horses that have been put down.

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7513.283 - 7517.428 James Pietragallo

So if you can put a horse down with something, you could probably do it for a 64-year-old guy too.

7517.969 - 7521.132 Jimmie Whisman

I'll bet the first page says, how big a gun you got?

7521.553 - 7525.878 James Pietragallo

Yeah, you got a big old gun? You got one of those things they hit the cows with in the head?

7526.599 - 7529.102 Jimmie Whisman

Those are very expensive to put down.

7529.656 - 7534.993 James Pietragallo

I bet, yeah. A horse, it costs thousands. Fuck yeah. Everything with a horse costs thousands of dollars. Everything.

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