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Smart Money Happy Hour with Rachel Cruze and George Kamel

Things That Scream “I’m Pretending to Be Upper Class”

Thu, 09 Jan 2025

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💵 Start your free budget today. Download the EveryDollar app! We all know that person who wears flashy designer logos like they’re personally endorsed by Michael Kors. In this episode, Rachel and George react to ways people pretend to be upper class and discuss how to be smart with your money instead. Next Steps: 🍸 Follow Smart Money Happy Hour on TikTok: @smartmoneyhappyhour.    📱Submit a Guilty As Charged question for Rachel and George! Send a DM to @rachelcruze or @georgekamel on Instagram! Be sure to type “GUILTY?” at the top of your message so we don’t miss it.     Connect With Our Sponsors: 🔒 Get 20% off when you join DeleteMe. 🌿 Get up to 40% off at Cozy Earth with code SMARTMONEY. Today’s Happy Hour Special: 🍸 Japanese Slipper Recipe: Difford’s Guide 1 fluid ounce Cointreau triple sec liqueur 1 fluid ounce green melon liqueur 1 fluid ounce lemon juice (freshly squeezed)   Instructions: Select and pre-chill a martini glass. Prepare garnish of Luxardo maraschino cherry dropped into drink. Shake all ingredients with ice. Fine strain into chilled glass. Listen to More From Ramsey Network: 💡 The Rachel Cruze Show 💰 George Kamel 🎙️ The Ramsey Show 💸 The Ramsey Show Highlights 🧠 The Dr. John Delony Show 🪑 Front Row Seat with Ken Coleman 📈 EntreLeadership   Ramsey Solutions Privacy Policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Who are the hosts of Smart Money Happy Hour?

5.697 - 6.499 Rachel Cruze

Hey guys, I'm Rachel Cruz.

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6.659 - 7.34 George Kamel

I'm George Campbell.

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7.421 - 12.09 Rachel Cruze

And this is Smart Money Happy Hour. Cheers.

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12.21 - 12.531 George Kamel

Cheers.

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17.483 - 25.209 Rachel Cruze

It's a lot of flavor. Well, this is the show where two friends who happen to be money experts talk about what you're talking about. Everything from pop culture, current events, and money.

Chapter 2: What does it mean to pretend to be upper class?

25.43 - 30.194 George Kamel

And today's episode is all about things that scream, I'm pretending to be upper class.

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30.254 - 37.64 Rachel Cruze

Yeah. I mean, these days it's cool to care about your money, right? But sometimes we care about the things that we shouldn't care about.

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37.66 - 43.365 George Kamel

Putting the care in all the wrong places. Dun, dun, dun. So think about words like try hard. Remember when that was a thing?

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43.405 - 43.745 Rachel Cruze

Yeah.

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43.885 - 47.548 George Kamel

Humble brag. Yeah. Now, the new one, according to Gen Z, is pick-me energy.

48.108 - 48.228 Rachel Cruze

Oh.

48.368 - 49.429 George Kamel

She has pick-me energy.

49.689 - 50.489 Rachel Cruze

Ooh.

50.669 - 58.614 George Kamel

When you're trying to sort of flex and, you know, get the attention. So we're going to talk about what showing off looks like when it comes to your money. But first, let's show off what we're sipping on, Rachel.

Chapter 3: What are some modern terms for trying too hard?

62.833 - 78.124 George Kamel

Well, stick around until the end. We're going to give you our rating and reveal the cost per glass at the end of the episode. So great. So like we said, it's cool to care about your finances, and we're trying to make that fetch. But that doesn't mean flaunting name brand stuff just to prove something. In fact, it's become kind of a social turnoff.

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78.304 - 86.369 Rachel Cruze

Yeah, people aren't liking it as much, and I appreciate that. It's almost like when people just use big words to feel like, oh, I'm smart, you know? Like ibuprofen.

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86.389 - 87.25 George Kamel

Say again? Ibuprofen.

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89.7 - 90.842 Rachel Cruze

Stop. Are you serious?

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91.182 - 93.825 George Kamel

Yeah. That's not the hard one. Just say Advil. That's not the hard one.

93.845 - 96.328 Rachel Cruze

You don't have to use the... Yeah, but what's the acetaminophen?

96.908 - 97.509 George Kamel

Acetaminophen.

97.709 - 105.338 Rachel Cruze

Acetaminophen. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. She got that one. You know what I always mispronounce? I always say nuclear.

106.319 - 111.55 George Kamel

Oh, you and George Bush. I think still... Strategery and nuclear.

Chapter 4: How does showing off impact financial health?

130.038 - 134.544 Rachel Cruze

It's cool not to care. But yet, yet, people are still caring about the wrong things.

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134.804 - 138.97 George Kamel

Let's talk about some of the pick-me moves according to the internet and see if we agree with them.

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139.17 - 140.352 Rachel Cruze

You ready for this one? Yeah.

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140.952 - 145.639 George Kamel

And again, this is in good fun. We've all been guilty of these. We are not above this. One-upping.

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147.108 - 147.849 Rachel Cruze

Oh, so annoying.

148.149 - 156.579 George Kamel

That's so... Someone's sharing a story and you go, oh, one time. And sometimes it's not malicious. Yeah. But a lot of times, you know the person is trying to one-up you.

156.659 - 168.393 Rachel Cruze

Okay, can I say, I may be guilty of this, and I hope it's not a one-up, but I do love in conversation... to hear something that someone's saying, and I'm like, oh my gosh, me too.

168.414 - 169.134 George Kamel

You're relating to it.

169.194 - 176.343 Rachel Cruze

It's a relating thing. I don't think it's a one. I mean, it's not like, oh, we went to the store, and I was like, I went to Fiji. It's not like that level.

Chapter 5: What are the pitfalls of name dropping?

199.722 - 200.142 George Kamel

Another one?

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200.162 - 200.842 Rachel Cruze

I appreciate that, yeah.

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200.862 - 201.483 George Kamel

Name dropping.

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201.783 - 202.263 Rachel Cruze

Hate it.

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202.363 - 203.824 George Kamel

This one personally bothers me.

203.844 - 205.005 Rachel Cruze

This one grinds my beans.

205.085 - 212.209 George Kamel

Maybe because I don't know anyone, I don't know anyone like famous enough to name drop other than you. No offense. Sorry.

213.07 - 224.908 Rachel Cruze

No, I... And you know who does... You know the most annoying ones. Are you ready? A little Enneagram talk. Okay. Enneagram three males that are unhealthy... This is what they do, and it drives.

224.928 - 231.851 George Kamel

And if you wanted to explain to her of an Enneagram 3 male, they want to win, and they want to look good doing it. They want you to know that they are winning.

Chapter 6: How do parents compare their kids?

252.105 - 253.607 Rachel Cruze

It's just like, I don't like it.

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253.967 - 255.79 George Kamel

Yeah. Do you ever name drop Dave?

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256.891 - 258.653 Rachel Cruze

I did twice in my life.

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259.594 - 261.917 George Kamel

Did it work? Did it get you what you wanted?

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263.119 - 263.68 Rachel Cruze

Yes, it did.

265.745 - 266.666 George Kamel

That's not helping anything.

266.686 - 283.903 Rachel Cruze

One of them was my econ class, my econ 101 with Ken Baker at UT. I was failing. And you were like, my dad... Because I didn't go to class, and I had a D, and it was one of those classes at UT. It was a massive lecture hall. Massive. So, like, if you never... They don't take roll. I mean, it's one of those, like, you just...

284.443 - 284.963 George Kamel

You're an adult.

285.364 - 308.012 Rachel Cruze

And your grade was literally the midterm and the final. Like it was one of those like, but then all of his exams, old exams were at the sorority dorm. So there's file cabinets that you could study the old exams and be fine. Not true. The midterm, I failed. I think I got like a 60 something and I was like, oh no, oh no. And so then he had office hours you could go to.

Chapter 7: What are the financial habits of those pretending to be wealthy?

378.542 - 394.937 George Kamel

Again, if you looked at my phone Rolodex, you'd be very unimpressed. You'd be like, I don't know any of these people. You should know cooler people. The coolest people I know are in this room. Mostly Kelly, our producer. But no, I've never, I try to avoid name dropping at all costs. Yeah, boo. What's next? What's another one?

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395.057 - 402.206 Rachel Cruze

Bragging about kids. So respectfully, no one cares that John Williams Fitzpatrick V is crawling at four months.

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402.426 - 418.369 George Kamel

We're experiencing this now because our daughter Mia is not walking yet, and she's about 15 months. So there's a lot of, even for my own family, accidentally they'll just be like, well, you know, Jimmy was walking when he was only nine months. Yes, the comparison. It's like, what are we doing here?

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418.489 - 419.309 Rachel Cruze

Oh, yeah, 100%.

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419.649 - 421.669 George Kamel

She'll be walking the rest of her life. She'll be fine.

421.809 - 444.187 Rachel Cruze

Yeah, oh, she'll be good. The funniest, though, is parents that... And I probably have done. I mean, I feel like every parent's probably guilty at some level of this. So I'm sorry to anyone that may have heard that. But you do talk to parents and when their kid is so specialized or so smart that they can't be in that sports league or that school anymore because they're just so smart.

444.207 - 444.727 George Kamel

They're too advanced.

444.747 - 460.527 Rachel Cruze

They're so advanced that like we just can't. And you're like, they're fine. Like, I don't know how, like, you, like, really? That's the stage of life we're in. Now, when they're in high school and they're legitimately, like, who knows what, like, there's legitimate ages of, like, no, that is, like, legitimate.

460.667 - 463.729 George Kamel

My rule is if you're still wet in the bed, you don't get to brag on your kids.

Chapter 8: What is the difference between true wealth and appearances?

464.349 - 465.009 George Kamel

You're not there yet.

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465.049 - 466.23 Rachel Cruze

Yeah, I know, I know.

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466.49 - 469.811 George Kamel

But Amelia had a piano recital and you were bragging about her?

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470.362 - 472.663 Rachel Cruze

She did great. Yeah, but I was not like, she is a prodigy.

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472.963 - 476.645 George Kamel

No, truthfully, I was very inquisitive. I was like, how did she do?

476.705 - 480.366 Rachel Cruze

Yeah, she just did a little recital. Nothing like out of the ordinary, but I was proud of her.

480.526 - 481.647 George Kamel

But she is a prodigy.

481.967 - 484.668 Rachel Cruze

But if I was like, y'all should listen to this.

484.748 - 485.789 George Kamel

She's a young Mozart.

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