Chapter 1: Who is Walton Goggins and what projects is he known for?
Hey, everybody. This is Walton Goggins. I'm the guest on SmartList today. And I can't wait to have a conversation with these three fellas. Only one of them know that I'm going to be here. So let's get this conversation started. Thanks for listening. Welcome to SmartList.
Wait, whose guest is it today? Shut up, Sean.
Jason's. You can tell by the attitude.
Fuck you, piece of shit. Hey, look at Wills on the fucking Western set.
Looks like he has his smoking jacket on.
His fucking quilted, self-stitched, what's it called?
Santa Fe something.
Yeah. Will, how much research... So Will's doing a Western thing. Not a Western. What is it? It's with Michelle Pfeiffer.
Yes. He's reprising... By the way, our friend Michelle Pfeiffer, who said to me... It's Mishy Fee. Mishy Fee. And I said... She goes, I know we got to take a break so you can do your podcast. She's being sort of coy. She said with a mocking tone. Yeah, and I said, yeah.
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Chapter 2: What unique experiences did Walton have while filming in Mongolia?
She was very good on the show. I said, you were great on the show. We loved having you and I hope you got a good response. And she said that people came out of the woodwork too and that people listened to it. So how about that? That's nice.
People always say, I don't want to do the show. I don't want to do the show. And then they're happy that they do the show.
that's right no i don't know i don't know don't you feel like we just all slept together in the same cabin somewhere because we just did this like 10 hours ago i know it was i mean like we just saw well let's go back to you why is everyone sleeping in a cabin oh because i'm dressed like i'm in the cabin well no well that we just all slept in the same house and then we just woke up for breakfast and we started doing this again yeah wait what is your dream
You know what I mean? What was for breakfast? Sushi. I just had sushi. No, you didn't. Yeah, I went to Zabar's. You know, Zabar's is really close. Oh, yeah. Famous for their sushi. Zabar's is making sushi. It's true. I put a jacket on. I went next door and I ate some sushi.
I mean, I brought it home. I brought it home. Hey, you shit pig. Remember yesterday when you said I just had Chinese food? I thought to myself, self, that sounds really good. And so I ordered some Chinese for me last night. Oh, you did?
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Chapter 3: How does Walton Goggins deal with imposter syndrome?
And we had Chinese for the first time in a long time. Right. Why was it good?
That's right. What did you have?
I was wondering about your face because I could see there was something, you know.
Will.
Will.
Wait till you see my face after a sushi lunch today.
Yeah. Do you get like, you know, anything kind of naughty when you order Chinese, like breaded chicken or breaded something or is it all like a bamboo shoots and you know?
No, we had a couple of chicken dishes and a noodle dish and there were some vegetables. Yeah, you gotta do it. You know, cause I said to Amanda, I said, you order baby. I don't want to, don't let me see anything. on the menu because I'll order Sean's food.
And she went like totally clean and everything. Yeah, and it was good.
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Chapter 4: What life lessons did Walton learn while on a horseback trip with his son?
So a little while ago, I run into Griffin Dunn, our old pal Griffin Dunn. The great Griffin Dunn. The great Griffin Dunn. So Griffin Dunn tells, so he says, I've been meaning to see, I've been meaning to tell you this story, I've been meaning to tell you this story.
He said years ago when, this is public record, he said when Ernest Borgnine was getting divorced, his wife cited one of the problems that she cited in the court record of their differences that she found as a problem, as grounds for divorce, was that Ernest Borgnine would Dutch oven her. He'd fart in the bed and pull the covers over her.
Is that real? Is that real? I swear to God.
Apparently, and I looked it up. It's true. And she hated it and she was disgusted by it. And so he was like, he was like, I got to tell Will. I got to call him. So he had my old phone number because I haven't spoken to him in like four years or something and I switched my number. So he keeps, he's sending me stuff and he calls me and the guy goes, hello?
And he goes, hey, listen, you know, this thing about Griff, you know, he goes, hey, Will. And the guy sort of says, yeah. And then he goes... Listen, Ernest Borgnine and the thing and the reason he got divorced and the Dutch oven and this stuff. And the guy goes, this isn't well. Okay, he's changed his number. And that is a disgusting. Why would you think I'd want to know this disgusting?
That's really funny.
Listener, as a backstory, you should know that I bought Ernest Borgnine's old house. Years ago. Years ago. And Will has been writing me for years that what I've done is I've made a bad purchase because... Not a bad purchase. Well, when you consider that supposedly Ernest Borgnine was a world-class masturbator.
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Chapter 5: How does Walton balance his public persona with his private life?
Well, he credited his longevity with the fact that he claimed that he masturbated every day. So I've always imagined him everywhere in the house, leaning against the railing.
I don't know why. Gooseback. Yeah, and so it's in the pool too, Will, and there's also lots of farts stuck in the master. Okay, got it.
Yeah, and when Ernest Fortnite, no, no. That is crazy.
Welcome to Smartless.
So I've been meaning to tell you that.
All right, let me pull up my notes here. Oh, yeah. All right, I've written a little intro. Where is it? Here it comes. What we've got here today. It's so smooth. Oh, God. Stop shouting. Well, we're back from commercial. What we've got here today is an actor, an exciting actor. This guy knows how to put you on his back and carry you into the world of some pretty interesting characters.
Some are funny, some are scary, some are dark, some are breezy. Whatever it is, though, it's always a good ride. He's the kind of actor that gives you the grin of expectation and the feeling of relief that you're in good hands for wherever you're going. Guys, I write these myself. You can tell.
He was born in Alabama, raised in Georgia, moved to Hollywood at 19, and has brought us iconic roles in films like Django Unchained, The Hateful Eight, and on TV he's given us gold in shows like The Shield, Justified, Vice Principles, Righteous, Gemstones, and recently White Lotus and Fallout. Dudes, here's Mr. Walton Goggins Jr.
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Chapter 6: What challenges did Walton face in his early acting career?
Here he is. Now we get it started.
I didn't know that you had to masturbate every day to lead McHale's Navy.
You got to get the evil out if you want to stick around a while.
Damn it. I want to get that show.
Why do you look so sharp today?
Do I look sharp? You're in the middle of a junket. Yeah, in the middle. Day, I think, three or four, something like that. No, really? Man. But this is the first one for today. We get you fresh?
So I'm doing okay.
This is for Fallout? Yeah, for Fallout. Yeah, this is Fallout. And I know that there's a surprise guest, and I saw Will the other night. I know.
Did you keep it zipped?
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Chapter 7: How does Walton feel about the evolution of his acting style over the years?
It was great.
Oh, my God. Hey, so here's the deal. MGT, maybe we've just sniffed out what maybe the hole is sometimes when every once in a while, Walton, a guest will come up to one of the three of us and say, hey, can't wait to see you next week. And it's just like- Or their rep. Or their rep or something like that. So what I think is the guest needs to be told, Michael, who the hosting fella is. Yeah. Right.
They're told. The rest are told. They're told. They are told. We're keeping that in.
We're keeping that they're told in.
The host, I mean, the guest knows who the hosts are. This is smartless, man. No, no, no. Your people didn't tell you. Yes.
So this is more, you know who we need to be speaking to are Walton's representatives.
Get them on the phone. Some of them are in the room right now. Do you hear that? Why didn't you tell me, honestly? It doesn't matter.
It's truly just a cut down on homework for the other two. What's up, fellas? What's up, bud?
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Chapter 8: What insights does Walton share about success and personal growth?
It's so good to meet you. So you're out there with the sandwich board for Fallout. I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just starting. And let's just jump off right there. How are you enjoying? God, he loves to jump off. What's the pre-call? I love to jump off. What's the pre-call on that? You got a two-hour pre-call there for the makeup chair?
Yeah, man. It's like three hours, you know, before anybody else shows up. I mean, it got so bad, like, not so bad, but we filmed the first season in New York. Yeah. For some reason, honestly.
Well, because you've got a place there, a beautiful place there in the Hudson Valley. They thought maybe we'll make it geographically attractive for Mr. Goggins. But never saw it.
Never left the city, really, except to go to Namibia. But we're out here now, and we were out filming in the desert. I've got this van here. You know, that like so many other people.
That you rent back to the company and you call it your dressing room?
As a matter of fact, I do. Wait, what? It's working.
Yeah, here's what you do, Sean. What are you talking about? When you're a fancy pants like Walton and you're working all the time, the smart money is spent on like a motor home or a van or something like that. You buy it yourself. Yeah, and then you rent it back to the production as your dressing room. And so they give you the money for dressing room rental. And so it pays for itself.
It pays for itself. Kind of.
I mean, it's a little harder in New York than it is in Los Angeles.
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