Deliverance
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What is the strange providence behind Sammy's story?
Okay, so today's story has a very strange providence. So imagine I'm minding my business. You know, I get a note from one of my heroes, Lulu Miller, co-host of Radiolab, author of books, all around cool person. And Lulu says that she has a story. She lays it out, and I'm thinking, this is going to be a very strange Radiolab piece. And she says, no, no, no, no. It's kind of more in the Snap lane. What? Lulu, do you mean, are you suggesting, could it be a Radiolab Snap Judgment co-production situation? Yes. Snap Nation, today on Radio Snap, Snap Lab. We proudly present... And today's mashup episode begins with always curious Lulu Miller, the host of Radiolab. It's about her friend slash fellow nerd, Sammy Ramsey.
Sammy's a rock star etymologist. I didn't choose the bug life. The bug life chose me. Now a bug correspondent for Radiolab's kids show, Terrestrials.
Terrestrials, Terrestrials, we are not the worst, we are the...
Best Reels.
Best Reels.
Yeah. And one afternoon last year, Sammy took Lulu and her wife to his favorite tea house in Boulder, Colorado. And he ended up sharing a part of his scientific origin story.
And we just suddenly, like, found ourselves in this really deep and surprising and intimate story. And I'd never heard anything like it.
Sammy had never spoken about this in public. Later, Lulu asked him if he'd ever want to tell it again in a studio to share with the world.
There was some level of nervousness about it because I'm like, how could this impact me? Especially in the very polarized context that we exist in now. So he thought about it and he realized. Authenticity is very important for me not to lose myself and I just have to lean in.
So yes, this is a science-y story. You get a little bit about beetles and bees and other cool science-y things, but the heart of this, this is about love. Radio Snap. Take it away. Lulu Miller.
Sammy grew up outside of D.C., and one of his favorite fashion choices was to wear his pet millipede around his neck to school.
I've always been quirky, you know, just that little kid with his elbows on the ground and his fists on his chin staring into different books about insects and superhero comics. And I just really enjoyed that in so many of these books, there was just a world out there that was so... vibrant and full of adventure. And no matter what, people always accepted the strange, quirky people in the end. They always found their place.
Which wasn't exactly how things went for Sammy when he got to middle school.
I immediately didn't fit. Day one, it was just very, very, very clear that something was really different about me. People treated me like I was this very odd thing. But instead of shrinking away... When people would say things about me and to me that were rude, I would jump back in with a rebuttal. I would point out that they were being problematic and rude. I would point out... Yeah. It bothered them enough that they stopped doing it.
So this is what age? This is like 12?
12.
Okay.
That's such a hard age.
Where did that strength, like, where do you think you got that? Where did that come from?
Faith. Faith.
See, Seve's not just the son of a preacher. He's the son of... Two preachers.
Two preachers. Preacher man, preacher woman. I mean, when we were little kids, just learning our alphabet, my parents taught us a scripture for every letter of the alphabet. No way. I'm so serious. Like, we were literally like, A, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Romans 3.23. B, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. C, like all the way through to Z. Oh.
My God. Do you still know it in your head?
D, do unto others as you would have them do to you. E, encourage one another and build each other up. F, for I know the plans that I have for you and they are plans of good and not evil.
Wow. Wow. And so you're saying that like that just scripture was as basic as like refrigerator magnets for everyone else.
Exactly. And they also provide you with this scaffolding that feels so objective. Do things this way, do things that way.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the strange providence behind Sammy's story?
0:02–5:47
2
How did Sammy's childhood influence his identity?
5:47–14:38
3
What challenges did Sammy face during his coming out journey?
14:38–28:44
4
How did Sammy's father react to his revelation?
28:44–44:29
5
What led to Sammy's excommunication from the church?
44:29–51:04