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How Confronting Your Shadow Persona Can Unlock Your True Purpose - Justin Breen - #489

26 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 1.093 Aaron Machbitz

Justin, welcome to the show.

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2.796 - 6.742 Justin Breen

Great to be here. Happy Passover. All that stuff.

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7.784 - 16.318 Aaron Machbitz

Yeah, thank you. Thank you. My first and most important question for you, Justin, is actually, how are you doing? Like, for real, how are you doing?

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17.9 - 28.495 Justin Breen

Well, I appreciate that question. You know, um, one of my favorite quotes is, uh, from Robert Johnson. He did a lot of shadow work.

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Chapter 2: What does shadow work mean and why is it important?

28.515 - 53.253 Justin Breen

Uh, he focused his life on shadow work and, uh, one of his favorite quotes, which I'm paraphrasing is for a select few, there's a determination to seek liberation from social hypnosis, social conditioning. So, um, when you're aware of things and what's really happening in the world, it can be a very lonely, uh, existence, but, um, you know, it takes someone like that to help others break through.

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53.273 - 60.247 Justin Breen

So as an individual, it's very difficult, but I've started to find more people who understand.

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62.15 - 64.194 Aaron Machbitz

Is that how you feel right now in the world? A bit lonely?

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65.176 - 92.979 Justin Breen

Well, I would say any true visionary who's, you know, so I don't usually prepare for interviews, but I did for this one for some reason. So I looked up your sister's gravestone and it said tenacious with an open heart and big smile. She was an inspiration to all who knew her. And then, you know, she died 28. And then my youngest brother died when he was 29. Opioids.

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93.279 - 108.94 Justin Breen

I don't know if it was on purpose or accidental. So, you know, we're living in these constructs of things that really people don't know what they mean. And it leads to things like that. So like the word business comes from by Zignus, which means anxiety. The word sale means dull and dirty.

Chapter 3: How can confronting masculine ego improve leadership?

108.98 - 132.866 Justin Breen

Religion means to bind. Family comes from familist, which means member of a household, staff, servants of families started as a servitude, slave system. So, you know, so we trumpet these things that cause anxiety, dull and dirty, binding. And then people are not only living in that, but they're, you know, they're applauded for that.

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Chapter 4: What transformative experiences shape our purpose?

133.207 - 155.715 Justin Breen

You know, so I know you're on a mission to search for mental health. And then what I found, you know, you know, help mental health. And what I found is by like going into the cause, the root of things, it just kind of exposes what's really happening. And then, you know, it's creating things like a book or companies actually help people become aware of that.

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157.93 - 178.331 Aaron Machbitz

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178.391 - 184.798 Aaron Machbitz

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Chapter 5: How does societal pressure impact youth today?

184.778 - 209.715 Aaron Machbitz

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209.735 - 226.098 Aaron Machbitz

Those are the best ways to support the work that we are doing here, now, onto the episode, completely uninterrupted and ad-free. Has your brain and thought process always worked like this, or did something kind of break you open to these ideas that we're talking about now?

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226.639 - 246.296 Justin Breen

So everything is my heart. So most people overthink everything and use their brains. most of my decisions come from my heart. This is also in the book. Almost all of my important decisions come from my heart, pure gut intuition.

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Chapter 6: What role does love play in overcoming personal challenges?

246.537 - 247.778 Justin Breen

Then my brain takes over.

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Chapter 7: What is the Law of Dharma and how does it relate to purpose?

248.598 - 271.807 Justin Breen

So the heart has thousands upon thousands of little brains in it. And people don't know that. They're not aware of that. So yes, my brain is active, but it always starts with my heart first. which the world has been conditioned not to do. They've been taught. You just asked it. How's your brain? Like that's what the world's been conditioned to ask for things as opposed to feel.

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273.509 - 276.493 Aaron Machbitz

Hmm. How do people make that switch then to, to kind of lead with their heart?

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277.074 - 308.145 Justin Breen

Well, that's, uh, what I've, there's a actual exercise that I wrote about, but basically, uh, slowing down. And then, um, it's a phrase, uh, a phrase that my friend, uh, Dr. Carlos Warder says, you kind of, uh, I would describe him as like a real-life alchemist. So you just slow down, close your eyes, meditate, and you say, I'm ready to listen to my heart now. So I've gotten pretty good at that.

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309.746 - 322.92 Justin Breen

Another good way of doing that, I write songs. I have two music companies now. And then I can just kind of feel things and write songs very quickly. So that's a really good way of processing feelings.

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323.356 - 348.992 Aaron Machbitz

creating music isn't there a sense of like also maybe on top of that like being in the present moment um you know especially maybe with modern society we're always on to the next thing the next thing the next thing and we don't kind of just sit in it and like enjoy it i mean so present means a gift so again like that's you know so it's like people say these words and uh

349.934 - 369.264 Justin Breen

what's lost is kind of what they actually mean. So yes, like it's a gift to be presently focused. And then Dr. Carl Jung, the late great Dr. Carl Jung said, you know, when you're having to face your own mask, your own shadow, most people can't handle it. They run away from it or run to the future.

370.125 - 387.273 Justin Breen

And so to add, you know, to fully answer your earlier question, I would say for the past two years, I've been really, Young called it like a liminal space, like you're alive in two lives. So I've been facing that. I know you can understand that. That's basically what your company is.

388.694 - 403.43 Justin Breen

I've been sitting in that, facing my own shadow, and then talking to others who are willing to at least feel that or think about doing that, and then learning from them as well. Yeah.

403.45 - 414.243 Aaron Machbitz

Yeah. Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about like, you know, talking about the present being a gift and like all that. It's like I have a brand new son as we're talking right now.

Chapter 8: Why is it crucial to express love and appreciation?

1485.863 - 1496.121 Justin Breen

I would say 100% true based on being a journalist for 20 plus years and then being a visionary where I just talk to people like us all day. I have not seen an exception to what you just said.

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1496.911 - 1521.338 Aaron Machbitz

yeah like i could just use myself as an example like when my sister passed away i was a like on track to be a wwe superstar uh and right if she if she hadn't passed away i probably would be doing that same shit running around traveling around drinking too much partying living a lifestyle just be living a mess so mass comes from the sqe which means full you just be living a mess Yeah.

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1521.358 - 1536.857 Aaron Machbitz

And so that's not the life I was supposed to live. I was supposed to live it for a little while. It was fun. Got to chase a dream. Um, but then, you know, you get that, you get that sort of thing that happens, whatever you want to call it, the glitch as you call it. Yeah. I like that. Uh, and then it moves you in a totally different direction, direction.

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1536.897 - 1543.044 Aaron Machbitz

Maybe you were supposed to go to, if you actually, I don't know. I don't, I don't want to call myself courageous cause that's fucking lame.

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1543.064 - 1548.771 Justin Breen

But like, if you have the core, which means heart, that's also in the book. So there you go. All heart where you're doing.

1548.987 - 1574.235 Justin Breen

it's all hard yeah it is all hard yeah i think so yeah and then but and then again i'd like to like have these things that like explain it so i'm not just talking but like dr david hawkins did um you know he devoted his life to scale of consciousness and then um uh it was from zero to a thousand um and then most of the world never gets to 200 which is courage that's what

1575.11 - 1595.076 Justin Breen

they don't follow their heart so that's so and then under 200 is like fear shame apathy grief and that's where most of the world is they don't follow their heart yeah yeah number one uh number one thing the dying say is they have regret about not going for something they wanted to

1595.343 - 1616.98 Justin Breen

that is not me yeah same same yeah so it's all courage um and then i guess if it's helpful as context like so my you know my dad again he's 61 when i was born uh world war ii hero attorney in the nazi war crime nuremberg trials and then um you know what the book is you know you know

1617.112 - 1645.532 Justin Breen

3D about like I followed his war diary to France I followed a map of his war diary to France I found his war diary after he died and then so like one of his diary entries which was on New Year's Eve 1944 he watched his friend get killed in a plane crash and his friend this is graphic his friend literally like melted in front of him he burned to death in front of him

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