Chapter 1: What is the main theme of David Greene's podcast?
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All right. So we call this show David Green is Obsessed. And I'm going to tell you the thing I'm most obsessed about is, shall we say, understanding the backstory of obsessions. You know, the deeper things in someone's life that made them fall in love with something or obsess about it. You know, you might meet me and find out that I have taken more than 1700 SoulCycle classes.
Okay, that's weird, right? You're thinking maybe this dude just likes to exercise. There is actually a lot more to me loving SoulCycle, loving the idea of being in a candlelit exercise studio with the hum of stationary bikes and great music.
If you dig deeper, there's a lot there about my social anxiety, about wanting a consistent connection with a community, about wanting to know that I can come to a place where I'm always accepted. And that's really the kind of stuff that I hope this show is gonna be about. I mean, I truly think that obsessions are a window into someone's soul. And we just follow the conversations where they go.
And I expect things are going to get raw. They're going to be joyous. They're going to... be wild sometimes, funny as hell, anger-inducing, but I hope you'll just be along for the ride. And I think today's a big example of the kind of interviews that I'm looking for. Tig Notaro, she's a comedian. You might know her. What you might not know is that she is obsessed with plant-based food.
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Chapter 2: How does Tig Notaro describe her journey to a plant-based diet?
I mean, I've done some acting. I have no idea. I was just thinking since we're on a podcast. Yeah, I'm a parent. I'm a spouse and all sorts of things.
And quite obsessive, committed to a plant-based diet.
Yes. Yes, indeed. And I know it's annoying to a lot of people.
What is annoying? I don't think it's annoying. I don't find it annoying. You haven't annoyed me yet.
Okay. Well, it's just the beginning. I don't know. I feel like, you know, there's the... There's the joke that is very true that, like, you don't have to ask somebody if they're vegan. You know, they'll let you know the second they walk in that they're vegan. Because I feel like people that eat plant-based, it's like I've found Christ, you know, is basically the feeling that I have.
Yes, Jesus is my friend.
Why do you feel Christ-like?
Because it changed my life so much. And if people are interested, I would love to tell them about it. But I'm not the kind of person that I'm judgmental about how you eat or what you do in any way. And it's also, I'm not going to plow through and start telling you, you need to do this. But if somebody is interested... Try to stop me.
Once the door opens, you're coming in full on. Well, there's no place more welcoming than this conversation for your plant-based information and commitment. So I want you to feel very safe. There's no annoyance at all. But could we get some definitions out of the way? Like I think in this world, it's like plant-based and vegan, exactly the same. Is there something... It's different.
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Chapter 3: What unique perspective does Tig Notaro offer about her health challenges?
That is correct.
And you, you've not just committed to this, but, um, you've gotten your family into it too, right? Your, your sons, your wife, your,
Well, my wife was vegetarian, I think, since she was a teenager. And I've had a lot of health issues. And it kept coming up, you know, you got to shift your diet, maybe look into a plant-based diet. And it was always like kind of one of those, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know. But it just seemed impossible for me.
And it also seemed like it wouldn't be... It felt like if I did do it, that it wouldn't be tasty, fulfilling, exciting. And it was... quite literally the opposite. It changed my whole relationship with food. But yes, I was dealing with a lot of pain and a lot of different issues. And I was about to go out on a two-week tour.
And in the back of my mind, I thought, okay, I'm going to be away from my regular everyday life and And I'm just going to use that time to watch documentaries, to read books. My opening act was vegan and he's a chef and all of these things. So I was like, this is perfect. I'm going to try it out. So yeah.
And I thought it was also a great opportunity because I was away from my regular life to try actually eating that way. And where most people think, oh, when you're traveling, it's the worst because there's no options. But there are so many options. But anyway, I did it. And I called Stephanie, my wife, and I just said, I think I'm going to try becoming vegan someday.
And she said, hi, honey, I went on the road. I think I'm vegan now. Yeah, essentially. And she said, you know what? I've always wanted to be. So I'll do it with you.
Well, that's convenient.
Yeah, it was really convenient. And our and our kids were one at the time. So they had only had much of a choice.
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Chapter 4: How does Tig Notaro define the difference between vegan and plant-based diets?
I'm good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that. What a good lesson.
Mm-hmm.
So one of those crises was a breast cancer diagnosis. And do I have this right? You got the diagnosis and you were scheduled to do a standup show in LA that same night?
It wasn't the same night. It was a few days later. A few days. Okay. Yeah. That was kind of, when I got the diagnosis, that was the cap of all of the hell where I truly, when I got that diagnosis, I was like, what? Like, I can't, I remember thinking, I can't, I, I can't possibly have cancer. I've been going through all this other stuff.
I couldn't even, I was so backlogged with grief and pain, emotional, physical pain. And now you're telling me I have invasive cancer. It was so confusing. And so I had called Flanagan, the owner of Largo, which is my home club here in LA. And I just said, I can't perform.
I told him everything that was going on and he said, well, let's keep it on the books in case you change your mind last minute. And I thought, man, this guy's nuts. But sure enough, when it came down to it, I had time to reflect on how, yeah, life can shift on a dime. And what if What if I don't come back from this? What if I don't get to do stand up again?
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Chapter 5: What are the challenges Tig Notaro faces in maintaining her diet?
And the director of that film was at my Largo show that night.
No way. Just by happenstance.
Yeah. Well, his producing partner, Jessica, she was the tour manager of a tour that I was on years before. And I didn't know she was a documentarian. And Jessica had invited Ryan, the director, to my show that night in 2012. And then she got sick. And he said, oh, I'll just bring all my gay guy friends and we'll go see this comedy show and have a good time.
And he said he remembered he told all of his friends, he was like, yeah, I guess this comedian's funny. And I walked out on stage and was like, hey, I have cancer. So it's really wild, the full circle of him directing the Come See Me in the Good Light documentary all those years later.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Do you ever, you know, just think about when you were talking about the diet, how that gives you this feeling of I have built some kind of defense against having to go through a horrific period in terms of health and that feeling of not being in control of 2012 like it.
Do you think there'll ever be a point where you get farther enough away from that terrible period that it doesn't need to shape how you think about life as much? Because I know early in your life, it's like friends said, there was something called TIG luck. You were a very lucky person. Things just went well.
And then when so many things don't go well and you're sort of looking for some way to build a defense against that, is that a... like a lifelong sort of way to live? Or is there a time when you're like, okay, it's been enough time. I don't have to fear that as much anymore.
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