Spittin Chiclets
Spittin' Chiclets Episode 633: Featuring Ernie Clement, Ryan Miller, & Gary Lawless
30 Mar 2026
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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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I brought it towards the Coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit and Chicklets podcast full-time. Ryan Whitney, you got a pink Whitney out there now.
He's a full-time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris Bates. Whoa, we're buzzing right now.
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Welcome everyone to episode 633, special Monday drop of the Spittin' Chicklets podcast. Pinkies up! And boy, did we ever get to experience some pinky up action in the Blue Jays sandbag. I hope, I hope. You guys have watched. The Pink Whitney was flowing once again, like always, besides a few people who just were such veterans. We couldn't get through. We couldn't beat them.
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Chapter 2: What funny moments did Ernie Clement share about the Blue Jays?
I don't love being hated, but then I'll just, I'll dive right. I'll hate you right back. But we had a blast with these guys. Now, Greg, On the, I think it was, what hole was that biz? Maybe the par five where this all came out that you had the new tip, and we were like, dude, come on.
Well, Yance called it, too. He goes, oh, great. When I was on the range, Yance was on the putting green, and he looked over away, and he goes, oh, great. He's getting a lesson from Johnny Longshorts. During the round, he's going to say, oh, I learned this new trick on the range. You see, he had 97-inch shorts on. How about when I go to him, oh, Paige Sporanek.
And then I corrected myself, obviously. And he goes, do I know her? He goes, arthritis in both hands. This guy's like 75 years old.
No, granted, I didn't see any of this interaction that you had with him.
Yeah, because you got stung by a bee and almost died.
I got stung by a bee and grinded my ass. Talk about like having.
What a round.
Big old set of balls that go out there after getting stung in the chest by a bee.
You look like Ernie in extra innings there.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Ryan Miller provide about goaltending in the NHL?
But, Biz, we're going to get to you because you had a crazy week. I kind of want to talk about it when we get into St. Louis and Utah. I will bring up because you just reminded me. I got to see R.A. yesterday. I went to the Bruins game. Oh, yeah. And, boys, so the Bruins, they're getting waxed right now, I think, by Columbus. But they played Minnesota.
And a 5 o'clock Saturday start is by far and away the best time to play a hockey game. It was an unreal crowd. Huge game for the Bruins. Wild are a little bit kind of going through the motions, I think. They're just setting stone where they're at, right? The Bruins might be an issue in the playoffs.
Swayman, dude. They'll take their pound of flesh.
And even today, they're getting pounded. But they had Gabranson and Tanner Janot and then Kastelik fought Olivier. So they're getting beat 3-0. And they're like, all right, that's exactly the right turnbiz. They take their pound of flesh. Swayman is so dialed in right now. Zaka looks unreal.
Pasha telling me, word for word, Zaka sucks a couple years ago is the dumbest hockey take this show has ever had. The guy is unreal.
If it wasn't for the baggers, he'd be gone.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
True.
But on both ends of the ice, middle stat looked good. McAvoy's playing amazing. It's just, it's a tough team. Like, I don't think they can win the Stanley Cup. But, dude, playing them in the first round with that D and that goalie. Arvidsson, too.
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Chapter 4: How did Ryan Miller's early hockey experiences shape his career?
They look all slotted in to be the first wildcard team. How was the crowd? What did you see? And actually, kind of a crazy game. Wilson was trying to murder Tano.
It was an unbelievable game. Unbelievable game. And, I mean, the first thing I got to mention is we mushed it. Troy Terry is the only guy survived right now with an unbelievable stat of no hits. Ovi took two D zone draws with you in the building.
That's actually, that's an FU to you.
That was, you know, it's crazy. I cut a video promo that I never ended up sending out. And in it, I mentioned, I'm like, I'm praying that Carberry sees this and gives Ovi a D zone start.
Like I'll send you guys to end.
Because I was in attendance and I was just like, I wanted to see it. I'll send you the video.
Just see his winger walk him off the wall and score. Like, oh, that's what I'm going to do.
Well, what's even crazier is after he got it, that's when he started. That's when he got his first goal, second goal, and then ended up getting his 34th career hat trick. Um, tough loss for Utah. They were up three, one in that game. Um, it was, we had wit on the Nash cast. The whole reason I went there is I was supposed to go in December. Uh, I used to work with Tyson Nash with the coyotes.
Um, it's really cool. Like what Ryan Smith has done, not only to bring a team there and like like have this facilities and build out an unbelievable locker room that like the gym and the training room, it all ends up connecting to the basketball room.
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Chapter 5: What were the key moments in Ryan Miller's career?
What's the incident? No, no, just like didn't win. And then the walkout comes, right? Yeah, and then the next year was full lockout and actually probably helped me the most because I had a place to play. I was in the American League. I was starting. We had a great team. We had, you know, We had Amonville, Roy, Vanek, Gostad. Oh my God. In the A? In the A. We had veterans.
It was, we were one of the best teams. The year prior, we had gone to the conference final and that year we won the league, I think, and We, two years in a row, ran into a hot Wade Flaherty. God damn it, Wade.
Oh my God, the guy in Milwaukee?
Yeah, he got us two years in a row. He got traded or something, signed with somebody else. And one year he beat us and he beat us the next year, I think.
I think they beat Wilks in the final, the one year.
I lost to him in the Calder Cup finals, the year before the lockout year.
Yeah, he got us that year. And I think he got us the next year too.
He was tiny, but he was incredible.
Yeah, he was on fire.
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Chapter 6: How did Ryan Miller feel about his time in Buffalo?
You got a draft. That's great. It's a checkpoint. If you're, you're part of something, work your way into it. And it was cool to have somebody, a team to root for. And, and, uh, you know, the Sabres had just gone to the finals and, and lost to Dallas and they're all fired up at that draft. So that was pretty, pretty interesting.
Even that year, the lockout year, and I know Wits talked about it, like all the best players were the younger best players in the league were down there playing that it was such a good league to play in. For you and your confidence going forward, knowing that you were probably going to be in the NHL the next year, it must have been huge for you to play in that type of schedule in the minors.
Yeah, no, I, I recognized the opportunity. Like I knew what it meant. Like the NHL boys aren't playing. The two guys that had me thought it was going to be a half year lockout and they're going to be back. So they didn't do anything. And then they had to scramble to find ice time. I knew that I had the advantage. It was well on my mind that I was in the driver's seat if I could just connect.
And I mean, I, it all kind of clicked with our team that year in regular season. And we had a decent playoff run. I mean, we really nice, uh, uh, lessons, you know, I mean, we're learning how to win together, learning how to play as a group going into some playoff runs three years in a row down there. And, uh, Yeah, I knew what it meant, and I'm happy I was able to take advantage of it.
You just mentioned that playoff run, so you didn't get an opportunity to cross over with Hasik. Did you get to meet him maybe in your first training camp, or was he already gone by then?
No, he was gone. Like, back then, too, like, you know, being in college and committed to college, you couldn't just come to camp. Like, it's like, I think there was a way you could, like, pay your own way. But it's also, like, for me, it was like, well, I'm not signed. And there was not a lot of development back then.
I never really remember talking to them about anything about my game, even, like...
even like right here's your jersey it's pretty much like two years it's like the definitely the jungle back then it's like okay you survived congrats here's a contract and it's like if you don't survive like see you later like it's now i think we recognize the investment you make and it's like draft picks are worth x amount of dollars right like they have a whole algorithm what every single draft picks worth and
how it values in a trade and all that stuff. So it's like, there's value there. You have to like protect your, your investment. So we do a lot more now, but back then it was just kind of like, Oh good. Looks like you're doing pretty well, bud. All right. We'll give you a shot now. Oh,
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Chapter 7: What insights does Ryan Miller share about his Olympic experience?
Well, people don't believe, like younger guys, I'm like, I was drafted by Pittsburgh. We had no rookie camps. We had nothing. Like you said, people don't even believe it now.
Well, your owner was on the team.
Now you leave the draft now. I think you go directly to a rookie camp. It's like there's no. We have development camp. Then it was like, see you later, buddy.
Good luck. I got to say thanks to my parents. No, we're on the plane now.
yeah pretty much like honestly yeah we got and we got guys if they're uh if they're european we you know hopefully they can quickly get the visa and show up for uh for development camp yeah that's how it goes that buffalo team though that you guys ended up forming and you mentioned like derrick roy vanik palmonville like big parts that were a part of the run in rochester and
When did you guys realize you had something special there? And more importantly, especially now for fans, like you must have been amazed at the Buffalo Sabres fan base and how crazy the building was. And once you guys started having success, it's like, holy shit, this is what I'd kind of heard about coming in.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's a hockey-crazy city. I mean, it's a big part of the culture of all of Western New York. I think just the fans in Rochester are great. Like, we had good teams, and there's a pride behind that history of that team, you know, separate from the Sabres in their own history, how they built themselves up. And the affiliation has been great.
It went away for a little while, but bringing it back and locking it down has been huge. You know, that's...
two parts of western new york that you gotta have and when you kind of understand start to click in like the the history and the fans and like it it really is amazing that i got to play there honestly like it just kind of fit my style my personality what i'm comfortable with and and i think the reputation of like buffalo and western new york you kind of
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Chapter 8: What is Ryan Miller's perspective on the current state of the Sabres?
It's awesome.
That's amazing. And you had Lindy there and the fact that he's there again right now is crazy. Yeah. He's still doing it. But like back then the coaches weren't as, you know, playing tummy sticks with the goalies. Like if a goalie let in some bad goals, they were getting reamed out. You ever have any run-ins with Lindy?
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lindy, the great part is that Jim Corsi was our goalie coach there, and he's the nicest human being ever. I couldn't say more about him. He invented Corsi biz. No shit, eh? His thought process inspired it, yeah. He had a thought about it, and it ended up being developed surrounding his thought process. But, yeah, Jimmy... Jimmy's just so nice and he would act like a buffer.
It was great because Jimmy could take an earful and then he'd come smiling over. But once in a while, Jimmy had to go do other stuff because back in the day, you were lucky to have a full-time goalie coach, honestly. Jimmy would be back and forth a little bit between Montreal and his other duties. So sometimes we'd lose Jimmy for a few days here and there and you're just like, oh, fuck.
Where's my good cop?
Yeah. Like, oh, God. Is that when you start using Razor?
Yeah.
I don't know. Razor and Lindy. I don't know. They had some fireworks back in the day too. So I'm sure he mentioned that to you guys.
Uh, but, um, yeah, no, if Jimmy wasn't in town and something happened, like a short side goal of any kind, like it was a, it was both goalies pulled in and you're getting to talking to, and then you just kind of thank God, you know, like, you know, Patty will lean or drag him in with like, Hey, like, All right, let's go talk. I'm going, you guys got to be better. What the hell is it?
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