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Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 644: Featuring Kevin Bieksa

07 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 14.966 Biz Nasty (Paul Bissonnette)

Hey, Spittin' Chicklets listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is Bosco Sports.

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15.106 - 35.754 Juice (Jared McCann)

I brought it towards the Coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicklets podcast full-time. Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now. He's a full-time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris Bates.

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35.774 - 38.998 Ryan Whitney

Whoa, we're buzzing right now. Sonk.

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43.113 - 61.904 Juice (Jared McCann)

What is up, everyone? Pinky's up. Pinky's up for episode 644 of Spittin' Chicklets. I was going to say, Biz, what time does the show start? But there he is. He's ready to go. Pinky's up. He was probably just – he might be back on the booze, and he was maybe getting a little Pink Whitney. Pinky's up. Quack.

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62.325 - 62.906 Unknown

Pre-game shit.

63.026 - 85.362 Juice (Jared McCann)

I was getting a nice little – Americano. Okay, Americano. That's your drink. Well, my drink's Pink Whitney. That's everyone's drink in the playoffs. That's everyone's drink in the summer. The beach, the golf course, the lake, the boat. It doesn't matter where you are. Go get a bottle of Pink Whitney. Pinkies up. What an incredible... Incredible couple days since we last recorded.

85.983 - 106.823 Juice (Jared McCann)

I hope everyone had the chance to maybe tune in to our live stream Wednesday... Was that... No, Tuesday night? What night was that, G? Tuesday night? Tuesday night of the Avalanche just taking control of this series over the wild. We'll get into that. But it was... Right after. Some of the funniest content. I couldn't make up the content we got.

107.385 - 130.895 Juice (Jared McCann)

And for anyone who's maybe a little behind, I'll just quickly rehash. Biz is done with the Leafs. It was a very... I'd say enormous moment in this show. Years and years of just loving the Leafs hometown team. And he quit. And he had his reasons. And what happens after? What happens after is something I'll never forget. God willing, I'm 90 years old. I'm laying in a bed, old, can't even move.

130.955 - 154.087 Juice (Jared McCann)

And somebody says, remember that draft lottery in 2026? And I just, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Because not only did the Leafs get the first overall pick, and now more than likely taking Gavin McKenna, who Biss said he was just going to follow to whatever team he went to, the number 12. I mean, the fact it was the number 12, man. That's Gary giving me the double barrel on the way out.

Chapter 2: What are the implications of the Avalanche's performance in the playoffs?

283.066 - 291.714 Unknown

I love the fact that you're as loyal as you are. You're as loyal as a dog, even though you get all of your dogs stolen. It stinks. I hate it.

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291.734 - 321.351 Juice (Jared McCann)

But it's one of those things, man. Like, you are a loyal dog, and I love you for it. I also got to just shout out, like... Scott Van Pelt, Stanford Steve, they're talking about biz after the game that night. It's just – forget also the Sharks getting a second overall pick. That's even more incredible because now they're just – okay, so they don't even have to make the decision. Which is nice.

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321.331 - 341.236 Juice (Jared McCann)

If you are somebody who says it's Stenberg or McKenna and it's somewhat of a battle, oh, well, whoever they don't take, we got. And if it is Stenberg, it's like, wow. And now people have said they have to take a D. I kind of get that. But if you're talking about a generational type player, then I think you take best player available. You figure it out.

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341.276 - 349.667 Juice (Jared McCann)

I mean, unless one of the defensemen is considered a future number one Chris Pronger style defenseman, 25 minutes a night,

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349.799 - 378.692 Juice (Jared McCann)

pp pk you think about it but it was just wild how it all went down it was why it was a movie it was literally it was like ryan seacrest went into the nhl office he was like hey just let me do two days let me get two days i'll fucking put this hockey world on their head just give me two days and he did it nhl went over to bravo for one day got all the ratings up and then boom now it's back to real hockey yeah the bachelorette was like uh you know they did their thing and the nhl was like hold my beer

378.672 - 393.375 Juice (Jared McCann)

Grinnell is saying here the Sharks are going to sign Radish over the summer. Have you been told? He said that last night in the group chat. I love that. No, it makes too much sense. They have 40 mil in cap space next year, 82 mil the year after that.

393.435 - 400.687 Biz Nasty (Paul Bissonnette)

They still have to sign Will and Mac, but you go sign him, maybe you pair him with Dickinson, that kid they got 11th overall a few years ago, played in London.

401.248 - 404.773 Juice (Jared McCann)

I think it's the perfect transition. Yeah, number one.

Chapter 3: What are the Maple Leafs' potential strategies after the draft lottery?

404.914 - 411.545 Juice (Jared McCann)

I think they only have two D signed. Did you see Radish's year-end meeting too? Like the conference with the media?

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411.986 - 412.387 Unknown

He's gone.

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412.407 - 413.388 Juice (Jared McCann)

It sounded like he's gone.

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413.829 - 414.19 Unknown

Really?

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414.39 - 425.149 Juice (Jared McCann)

I mean, Dimitri Orlov is the highest paid player on the San Jose Sharks right now, making $6.5 million. They have to spend money somewhere. They have to. Well, they're going to be spending a ton of it.

425.72 - 451.677 Juice (Jared McCann)

then i think a report came out from chris jaunt was it johnson saying maybe matthews like isn't sure if he's gonna go back i don't really know you kind of see all these different reports so like oh i think that they're they're gonna be in a solid spot like getting that first overall pick changes everything and also if if matthews does decide he wants to leave like it wouldn't be the worst thing if they stripped it to the ground because the return on even him and nylander alone like

452.247 - 471.343 Juice (Jared McCann)

you know, you could build around Cowan, you can build around McKenna, obviously. And then the return you could get, if you're sending those guys out the door, I imagine you're getting three to four first round picks. Hopefully they're high first round picks. And then probably like, like, two to three roster players, including a few prospects.

471.383 - 489.001 Juice (Jared McCann)

So you'd get a boatload in return and then the timeline would match up a little bit. But also you got Cowan on entry level, you got McKenna on entry level. So that's going to save you some money for some skilled top six wingers. And then all of a sudden, you know, your cap situation's not horrendous with the fact that it's going up, what, eight and a half million?

489.341 - 509.77 Juice (Jared McCann)

Because that was one thing that was announced. So for the Leafs going from where their cap's going to now getting the first overall pick, a lot has changed to the fact that I could see them making playoffs next year. The only thing they have going against them is the fact that the Atlantic is still going to be very difficult. And, you know, I mean, the East in general is going to be a gauntlet.

Chapter 4: How are injuries affecting the teams in the playoffs?

1510.447 - 1514.692 Juice (Jared McCann)

No, that's the power play. No, I know, but the way he just said it, he said the opposite.

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1514.712 - 1522.921 Ryan Whitney

Yeah, but if you're a penalty killer, you know, like, okay, it's a 1-3-1. I always push down the boards here, and then it comes underneath me, and I go out.

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1523.322 - 1527.947 Juice (Jared McCann)

You got those two flankers with that front guy, bumper guy in the middle, and one guy up top.

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1528.282 - 1545.598 Ryan Whitney

And Keith probably knows this as a power play guy. I remember we would do that on a power play. This is in Europe when I was actually a PE guy. And you would start in a box in one and get them thought like that. Then you would rotate to an umbrella. Did you do stuff like that, Keith, inside a two minute power play?

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1545.815 - 1566.523 Unknown

What, like switching up? No, not really. It was kind of, I think the best power play is having some structure and then just kind of, I mean, everybody on the ice is good enough to get open and make plays and know where to be. So I think you have to have a lot of freedom too within the power play to let guys have the freedom to move around. Yeah, you always want somebody in front of the net.

1566.543 - 1573.493 Unknown

You always want the flank guy. But I think having like a set, set, like actual, like where you're going to be is kind of,

1573.777 - 1591.498 Unknown

obsolete a little bit now like they're kind of guys are free flowing and just going out there and using their hockey senses more than just kind of being in a spot how would you play against a 1-3-1 you're saying set up in a diamond that's usually how they're doing it yeah and then the diamond doesn't work on the box in one

1592.12 - 1594.182 Ryan Whitney

If you can see it that way, you know what that means?

1594.202 - 1609.137 Juice (Jared McCann)

Like, Oh yeah, I see what you're saying. I mean, I would think that they'd be all over that though in the pre-scout, but like you're saying when it switches that quick, right? Like it is, it is difficult to just kind of wrap your mind around like, all right, this is a completely different setup, but Keith's right.

Chapter 5: What challenges do playoff teams face after a long season?

4512.133 - 4529.489 Juice (Jared McCann)

Those are the type of players I think that create offense, you know, historically against Carolina. But I don't know. I think that Philly, they had a great start to game two, but I really thought they needed to win that game just, just for their confidence to think they could be in this series. So they got a tall task, man. Like it might be hate to say it.

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4529.509 - 4545.105 Juice (Jared McCann)

I hate to do it to talk, but like, it might be a sweet, like this could be a sweet series. And then Carolina sitting around just licking their chops, waiting for Montreal and Buffalo to beat each other up. Have you ever been on a team where, like, basically since, like, All-Star break, you have to go on a crazy run to even get in?

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Chapter 6: How does fatigue affect playoff performance?

4545.166 - 4562.788 Juice (Jared McCann)

And if so, like, how much energy does that take away from you? Because I feel like they've been playing playoff hockey now for, like, two months already, right? It's not like they got a little bit of rest going into playoffs. It's like every game was a must-win situation for them to even get in. I think it was 3.8% was the chance they had after Olympic break.

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4563.228 - 4586.46 Juice (Jared McCann)

So, Juice, have you ever, like, had to do that? And, like, do you hit that wall? Yeah, I have. I've been. So 2010-11, we won the President's Trophy in Vancouver. We ended up making a whole run to the finals, Game 7, all that stuff. The next season, with about a month left, it was so tight. There was so much parity in the West that we were kind of on the verge of not making the playoffs.

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4586.54 - 4594.371 Juice (Jared McCann)

But our division was all still really close. So we had to grind to make the playoffs, and we ended up winning the President's Trophy again.

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Chapter 7: What role does team depth play in the playoffs?

4594.351 - 4610.757 Juice (Jared McCann)

And everyone said we were the worst team to ever win the President's Trophy. Were you? Well, I don't know. Well, yeah, here's the evidence. So then we were the number one seed playing the Kings in the first round. And they beat us pretty easily. So we were just like...

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4610.737 - 4634.55 Juice (Jared McCann)

a little bit from the year before but just playing all these meaningful games and not so much physically because you can recover it's like the mental like where every mistake is such a big deal like when you play 20 games of that then you start the playoffs like as soon as the playoffs start you're almost like oh i can exhale now you know like every mistake is not like we have four wins to play with here or four losses i should say to play with here like

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4634.632 - 4653.973 Juice (Jared McCann)

I don't have to be that mentally on. And the next thing you know, you're down 2-3-1 in the series. So that's a real thing. And your fan base is kind of just happy you made playoffs. It's just like you're playing with house's money. Everybody's in a good mood. And you've broken a, what, five, six-year streak of not making the dance. So interesting. Somebody mentioned, Biz –

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4653.953 - 4673.025 Juice (Jared McCann)

On the stream, I think, about Carolina and the way they play and how much energy it takes, if they can get a sweep or in five, that makes such a difference to them. Because the man-on-man thing, it is definitely harder in your own zone. Are they in their own zone that much? Not really. The Slavin...

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4673.005 - 4699.367 Juice (Jared McCann)

continues like you watch games man and that guy is so fast and he makes it he'll make a stick check in his own zone and all of a sudden he skates it to the red line and he'll you know dump it in change or make a pass and it's just like this guy is so much better than i think people give him credit for and even in the past few years people have really started understanding but if you're a flyers fan who doesn't see carolina a lot you're like this guy's he's impossible to get around

4699.347 - 4722.843 Juice (Jared McCann)

The wit. There's an analytics statistic to support what you're saying. It's called like disruption stats. And Caroline and Slavin are off the charts. Like disruption and 50-50 battles won and like killing plays. They're so good at that. So they're man-on-man and Montreal is also kind of a man-on-man. Tons of energy. So what do both those teams have in common? They play everybody.

4723.264 - 4731.18 Juice (Jared McCann)

Everybody plays on their team pretty even across the board. You're talking about Carolina? And Montreal. Montreal's D is a little bit skewed.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of the draft lottery results?

4731.2 - 4736.611 Juice (Jared McCann)

That third pairing is a little bit below. But in Carolina, everybody plays. They roll the lines.

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4736.831 - 4737.252 Unknown

You have to.

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4737.232 - 4747.608 Juice (Jared McCann)

That's what I was just going to bring up. So the least amount of ice as far as forwards in in game two was Jan Kowski and he played 13 minutes.

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4748.35 - 4767.778 Juice (Jared McCann)

Look that. Yeah, dude, that I was just that's really literally why I brought this up because you talk about how they do get tired. Or they could get tired because of how hard they play. They do such a good job of having no passengers and distributing ice that not only are they going to get their rest, but they keep everybody fresh because they roll four lines.

4767.798 - 4788.969 Juice (Jared McCann)

And that's how they're able to keep that pace up throughout the course of a game. Now, I also thought that this was crazy. Who do you think led their team in ice time on D last game? Biz, you need a defibrillator if you played 13 minutes. Buddy, I played 11 against the Edmonton Oilers. Dying. I had to take the next practice off. Ask Yance. I was in a body cast in the room the next day.

4788.989 - 4814.774 Juice (Jared McCann)

Yance played 11 minutes in the first period. He was literally the next day. He's like, how do you guys do this? Getting IVs, had the Norma Tech boots on. You took your option, right? Took your option. First time ever. First time ever. Biz, was it Keandre Miller? No, but he was second. Walker, Sean Walker. No, it was Chatfield played 29. Seven times. Oh, I was asking those.

4814.854 - 4816.496 Juice (Jared McCann)

I was asking juice, but sorry.

4817.637 - 4823.823 Unknown

Do you think it's because their first line isn't going that well that they just spread the love throughout?

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