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The heated rivalry behind the Stanley Cup

02 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 5.063 Claire Kimball

This is a Squiz Podcast. We're your shortcut to being informed.

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14.037 - 31.423 Andrew Williams

The sport of ice hockey has transcended a game just for the fans this year as it's found itself at the center of a couple of big cultural moments across the world. We're talking, of course, about the raging success of TV shows, heated rivalry and more recently off campus. But the sports popularity goes well beyond that and into real life.

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31.444 - 44.36 Andrew Williams

So in this quiz shortcut, we'll get you across the impacts of those shows on the sport. And as the current season of the North American competition comes to its conclusion, We'll get you across one of the hardest sporting trophies in the world to win the Stanley Cup. I'm Andrew Williams.

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44.52 - 45.541 Claire Kimball

And I'm Clare Kimball.

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48.083 - 58.573 Andrew Williams

Clare, these days you're sort of a special guest star for Squizz Shortcuts, sort of the Betty White of Squizz Shortcuts. You only jump on the ones you feel very strongly about. It's fair to say this is one of them, though.

58.793 - 59.694 Claire Kimball

It really is.

Chapter 2: What cultural moments have impacted ice hockey this year?

59.994 - 80.701 Claire Kimball

And, look, long-term Squizzers know I go down these rabbit holes, these very random rabbit holes from time to time. And this one for me has been months in the making. So since watching Heated Rivalry back in January, my interest in ice hockey was piqued. And I decided to learn more about it by watching regular NHL games.

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80.861 - 93.778 Andrew Williams

First bit of jargon there for us to unpack is NHL. That's the National Hockey League, which is the world's top professional league in the sport of ice hockey. Now, it says National Hockey League. It's not – that's a misnomer because it's an international hockey league.

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Chapter 3: How did the TV shows 'Heated Rivalry' and 'Off Campus' gain popularity?

93.838 - 96.403 Andrew Williams

It includes teams from both Canada and the United States.

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96.523 - 104.398 Claire Kimball

Yeah. Think about it a bit like Australia's NRL, so the National Rugby League. There are teams from Australia and New Zealand and soon Papua New Guinea.

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104.598 - 118.301 Andrew Williams

Yeah, exactly. And I can confirm your dedication to watching these games. So if you don't follow ice hockey, because of the time zones with North America – The games can be on anywhere between 8 o'clock Eastern Standard Time, Sydney time, and early afternoon here in Australia.

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118.401 - 125.87 Andrew Williams

And there's been more than one occasion where you've grabbed the TV in the office and gone, I'm putting the Canadians on. That's a team, by the way. I'm putting the ice hockey on.

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126.01 - 144.283 Claire Kimball

I'm putting the ice hockey on. I've really dragged Team Squeeze through this journey. And I should take the opportunity here on the public record to thank everyone for coming along with me. No, thanks, Miss Sarah. It's not the first time in my defence this sort of fascination has happened from a show into a sport, Drive to Survive on Netflix.

Chapter 4: What is the significance of the Stanley Cup in ice hockey?

144.984 - 153.225 Claire Kimball

I really became an F1 fan, not just in those moments, but I still follow F1 news and I watch the races really regularly.

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153.205 - 170.721 Andrew Williams

shows the value of a TV show on the real-life interest in a sport. The difference here, of course, is that Drive to Survive is a doco. Heated Rivalry is very much not. It is very fictional. But however you find an interest in life, you know we're not here to judge. I like escape rooms. Claire doesn't. We've all got stuff that's different.

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171.521 - 181.17 Andrew Williams

So how we're going to break this down is we'll talk about the cultural moments that have put a spotlight on ice hockey, and then we'll get into the sport itself and the Stanley Cup, which will generate some news in the next couple of weeks.

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181.15 - 203.98 Claire Kimball

Yep, I think that's the way to go. And look, as we do with The Squeeze, let's start with some facts about the show, just to get a handle on how big it has been. The makers of Hidden Rivalry say that they never really expected it to be much more than a very little Canadian show that connected with romance fiction fans who really loved the Game Changers series that was written by Rachel Reid.

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204 - 232.605 Claire Kimball

It doesn't really have the ingredients for mainstream success. It was a really small budget show. It's a gay, bi, queer love story packed with really spicy content. And ice hockey as a sport, it's traditionally really treated as a very niche TV market outside of Canada and certainly just parts of the United States. So a very small fan base compared to a lot of other sports for ice hockey as well.

232.585 - 251.114 Andrew Williams

Yeah, I know a lot of American sports fans and I think that would anecdotally be the fourth most popular sport of the big four after baseball, basketball and football amongst Australians and people outside of North America. So this really did all make Heated Rivalry the little show that could. Jacob Tierney was the guy who took Reid's books and adapted them for TV.

251.475 - 270.068 Andrew Williams

He's talked about the hustle to get it funded and get it into production. It was made originally for Crave. which is a bit like binge. It's like Canada's version of binge. They got some funding from Canadian government bodies under programs that promote local cultural content. And very, very late in the piece, they secured a deal with HBO to distribute it beyond Canada.

270.166 - 287.389 Claire Kimball

Yeah, that happened just nine days before the first episode aired in late November last year. HBO paid a rumoured, it's never been confirmed, but a rumoured $3.6 US million for the rights to stream it in the United States and Australia and only those markets beyond Canada.

288.571 - 296.982 Claire Kimball

That's $600,000 an episode, which isn't much when it comes to those sorts of deals, particularly for the payoff that HBO has had.

Chapter 5: What are the challenges of following the NHL for new fans?

444.145 - 463.984 Claire Kimball

Go on. Sydney Crosby is this Mr. Perfect Canadian. Alex Ovechkin is this really cocky Russian. They were both players at the start of their careers in the mid-2000s when the NHL was really thrown into this period of turmoil. over a player pay dispute to the point where they actually shut down the league for a year.

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464.465 - 485.544 Claire Kimball

And as a way to get things back on track when all of that was resolved, the NHL sort of concocted and really talked up this rivalry as a way to really generate interest in the sport again. They are still both playing, Crosby and Ovechkin. They're considered two of the greats of all time these days, you know, when we get sort of 20 years down the track.

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485.944 - 491.872 Claire Kimball

There's no suggestion, though, that there was anything romantic between those two men. Sorry to disappoint you.

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491.892 - 514.089 Andrew Williams

Yeah, it was just a rivalry, not a heated one. Well, not in that way. But it's just one example where art doesn't imitate life. The NHL remains the only major North American men's professional sports league where no current or former player has ever publicly come out as gay, queer, bi or a member of any version of that. So why that's the case has been under the microscope this year.

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514.21 - 517.978 Andrew Williams

Many commentators have pointed to that conservative culture that the sport has.

518.026 - 533.131 Claire Kimball

Yeah, and look, I guess we should point out here in Australia, you can really count on one hand the number of male players in our major sports who have publicly said that they're gay or bi or queer or whatever. And those who have mostly did it when they had actually left the sport.

533.392 - 541.165 Claire Kimball

It's very different for women's sports at that top level, but for the men, it's really a common theme, not just here in Australia, but across the world.

541.145 - 562.794 Andrew Williams

Absolutely. And so there was no rush of NHL players coming out, but heated rivalry has driven waves of new fans to the NHL. This is where this sort of complicated moment you talked about comes in because reports say there has been a 75% increase in hockey ticket searches driven by first-time buyers, and it doesn't take a detective to work out where they may have potentially come from.

563.095 - 569.363 Andrew Williams

There's been a 20% rise in weekly ticket sales and a 30% jump in revenue directly following the show's peak popularity.

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