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STACK with Jake and Ella

Everybody Scream: Haunted Books, Ghost Stories and Book Binges

28 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

7.726 - 16.419 Jake

Hello and welcome to The Stack, a books podcast that cuts through the noise to share with you a curated list of the books that are worth your time. My name is Jake. I'm a writer and a podcast producer.

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16.719 - 27.355 Ella

And I'm Ella. I work in book publishing. In every episode, we'll be building a theme stack of six books we love. And this week's theme is haunted books. But before we start, Jake, how are you doing? How was your week?

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27.638 - 30.923 Jake

Yeah, my week was good. I have been excited to share with you that I have bought a bike.

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31.384 - 32.266 Ella

Congratulations.

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33.087 - 40.559 Jake

I'm back on the bike, which famously you never forget how to do. And I always think of you because of the time that you did the cycling proficiency course.

40.579 - 42.082 Ella

I did. Thank you for remembering. Yes, I did.

42.162 - 44.606 Jake

Advice that has stuck with me. Do you remember what it was?

45.167 - 53.781 Ella

Was it the only piece of advice I can recall from said cycling proficiency, which was if you get beeped at, it means the other drivers can see you.

54.419 - 56.204 Jake

It wasn't that funny. Okay, sure.

Chapter 2: What is the theme of this week's episode?

56.244 - 57.568 Jake

It was like, you are a vehicle.

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58.611 - 59.333 Ella

I said that to you?

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59.353 - 60.736 Jake

Yeah, it's like, you're not a cyclist.

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61.659 - 64.587 Jake

You're a vehicle. That's really motivational. And you need to take up space on the road.

64.647 - 65.048 Ella

Yeah.

65.068 - 66.211 Jake

That's what I'm trying to do.

66.272 - 66.913 Ella

Congratulations.

67.154 - 68.056 Jake

How are you? What have you been up to?

Chapter 3: How did Jake and Ella choose their haunted book recommendations?

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380.68 - 387.594 Jake

It maybe makes me believe in that when you see what your brain creates, that maybe that's very real in the moment.

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388.436 - 415.701 Ella

I, having now had someone I'm friends with tell me that they've seen a ghost. Yeah, that's not done it. Okay. That's not done it for me. Should we talk about some books? The first book I am adding to the stack is Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo. So this is a dark, kind of dark academia fantasy book set at Yale. So Leigh Bardugo is a fantasy author.

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415.761 - 435.354 Ella

She has written YA before, so she wrote Shadow and Bone. This was her first adult fantasy book. So the kind of brief plot summary is that Alex is a sole survivor of a horrific unsolved crime and then finds the fresh start that she's been looking for at Yale University. It's completely free ride, full scholarship, but it comes with a catch.

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435.955 - 449.374 Ella

So Alex represents a secret society called Leith and they are tasked with monitoring the mysterious activities of Yale secret societies. Secret societies are all magic and they all kind of prey on people that have less power and privilege.

449.815 - 469.451 Ella

And at the expense of those people, they are able to, through dark magic, yield the most famous and influential people in the world from kind of Nobel Prize winners to presidents and influence the kind of stock market. So as a novel, it's full of power and balance. And you have Alex as this person who's trying to keep these societies in check.

469.471 - 489.044 Ella

Alex, in her favour, she is born with the ability to see ghosts. Hence the selection for today. And so she can communicate them. She sees flashes of their memories and her ability becomes more and more useful, even as she's working to keep them at bay because they're really draining. And so it has all the hallmarks of fantasy that I love. It has a really fleshed out magic system.

489.064 - 493.693 Ella

It has great characters. I love the heroine. I love a duology. Do you ever read?

493.713 - 496.378 Jake

I think that it's quite rare that I come across duos.

Chapter 4: What makes 'Ninth House' by Leigh Bardugo a unique read?

1434.966 - 1436.708 Jake

You can borrow it. There you go.

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1436.728 - 1437.249 Ella

Thank you.

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1437.669 - 1440.933 Jake

I'm sure, yeah, because I'm sure you've seen that in the shops. It's done very well.

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1441.453 - 1453.107 Ella

I've thought too scary for me. I've probably written it off because I don't read a huge amount of horror. And I've probably thought it's a bit too scary. But actually, that sounds amazing.

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1453.576 - 1471.304 Jake

Now, we have got a listener question for our shelf help section. What we want to do here is to solve any of your dilemmas. So whether you need a present for your in-laws, whether you're struggling to read in a certain genre and you want recommendations, we are here to help. We are at the Stack podcast on all platforms. If you're watching on YouTube, you can leave a note in the comments.

1471.324 - 1481.22 Jake

We've got our first listener question from Emily, a friend of the pod, who runs the It's Hard Back Out Here book club. So let's hear what Emily has to say.

1482.061 - 1504.405 Emily

Hi Jake and Ella, it's Emily here from It's Hard Back Out Here Book Club. Obviously books are a big part of my life and something that I really want to share with my family who are less bookish than I am, particularly my dad. He's a therapist, he is generally not particularly interested in books but he has been reading Maybe You Should Talk to Someone by Laurie Cotlieb.

1504.545 - 1518.552 Emily

It's a memoir about a therapist who goes to therapy. So my question to you guys is do you have any book recs that are fiction that might be able to give them some escapism or nonfiction that's not about like psychology or therapy.

1518.792 - 1529.044 Ella

Thank you. OK, I have one thing to say. The third book that I bought at Waterstones, it was this book that Emily's dad has read. Oh, reverse influenced. Wow.

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