England Out! Tuchel Got It Wrong & Genius Messi Delivers Again!
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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I hope you enjoy this episode. Do you not think teams have done that the last 20 years?
What you're saying, Gary, he's just got to stop that bull from getting to him? You can stop him getting it in that area. So stand next to him and make him go more central. So what's happened the last 20 years? That is something you can stop. We thought they might beat us by the spirit, the fight, the message. They beat us through quality in the end. We've lost a goal from a header with a back five of Spence, Byrne, Stones, Konza and Gueye. We've lost to Lautaro Martinez. We couldn't have had any bigger defenders on that pitch to deal with that header.
The last seven World Cup Golden Glove winners.
If we get this round, it's spoiler by night. This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet. They're joining us all tournament long and we're delighted to have them along with us for the ride. We've got plenty more episodes on the way, so hit subscribe, get your comments in and stick with us all summer. Well, we're a bit messy tonight. We've just come off the watch along and... If I've seen that once, I've seen that. 15 times, 16 times. I'm actually more flat today than I was when we got knocked out by France in the quarterfinal in Qatar because we had a right go at them throughout the match. I thought it was like a sort of bit of a basketball match. I can't stand us losing like that.
Can we have the minutes where they made the substitutions? Yeah, come. We can. He made the 72-minute substitution, which was Gordon coming off. For who? That's the momentum. Thank you. That's the momentum in the game after that.
Yeah, but who... What's the white? Momentum when Argentina took over.
That's momentum for England, I think. It's dropped off. No, sorry, hang on. What's going on here? Sorry, no. This is the momentum for Argentina. Yeah, but that's not from the sub on the second, is it? Yeah, this is 72 minutes.
So for me, it's made substitutions go out and not attacking, they're defending. Look, the substitutions will definitely get... For a brave, just quickly Gal, for a manager that's been as brave as he's been, with the selections from the start, with the players that he's brought in, the selections and the substitutions he's made up to this point, was that positive, Gal, that game?
Well, look at Mexico when we were 3-2, I know we were down to 10 men, but we did go back into a back five with Dan Byrne and we tried to hold on in there and protect that.
Yeah, but I was 10 men.
And we did. Look, the big problem for me was before we even made substitutions. We'd started to drop deep into the box before then. And, Ian, I've seen it so many times. But you know what? I know the stats. We can all get the stats.
But, as you said, it had 28 touches in the box. England's box. How many do you think England had? How many? In a game of football? Seven. And one was a growth. The opposition box.
Do we agree, though, up until 60 minutes, that game was, to be fair, ours or even? It was ours or even, wasn't it? It was a struggle. It was a battle.
You felt like we were in it. I only felt that we needed a bit more pace up front so as we can get... Because the width, on the wide, on the flanks, I only thought that that's all we needed, a bit more pace up front, because when we were deep, Roy, and we were just kicking it up, when was we going to get control of the ball?
At some stage, they were going to get a grip of the game.
At some stage... Yeah, but they were afraid... They're playing England, they're not playing Spain, where Spain were just, we saw yesterday, way down. So they were going to get some momentum. They're chasing the game.
And don't forget, they have the greatest player we've probably ever seen on the pitch. That influences decision-making. You've got Messi. What are you going to do? Right, he was on the pitch in the first half.
Why are the hosts so frustrated after England’s World Cup semi-final loss?
He was still the greatest player. No, I'm talking about the second half.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–4:01
2
Why are the hosts so frustrated after England’s World Cup semi-final loss?
4:01–14:28
3
When and why did England start dropping deep after taking the lead?
14:28–16:11
4
Could man-marking Messi on the right have prevented Argentina’s comeback?
16:11–34:40
5
Were Thomas Tuchel’s substitutions too defensive and did they change the game momentum?
34:40–40:23
6
What comes next for Tuchel and which players should face scrutiny after the defeat?
40:23–46:03
7
How did fatigue and player management affect England’s performance late on?
46:03–47:15
Speakers
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