Weirdhouse Cinema: Star Trek - First Contact

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What is the premise of this Weirdhouse Cinema episode and why focus on the Borg?

Kane Steinbrecher 0:00
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Unknown 0:06
Welcome
Kane Steinbrecher 0:07
to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeart Radio. Hey,
Rob Lamb 0:10
welcome to Weird House Cinema. My name's Rob Lamb. And I'm Joe McCormick. And today on Weird House Cinema, we are going to be talking about 1996's Star Trek First Contact. This is the second year that we've done a Star Trek week, lining up with internationally recognized Star Trek Day. And it's a pretty big anniversary for Star Trek. 60 years of Star Trek. That's a lot of myth-making. That's a lot of science fiction. And so this year, we really doubled down on the Borg. We did two core episodes about the idea. of the Borg, the science behind the Borg, cultural analysis of the Borg, questions like, is the Borg queen a goddess? And if so, what sort of goddess? We were just chatting beforehand on the question, did we go overboard on the Borg or over Borg on the Borg?
Rob Lamb 1:09
And I'm not going on the core Borg lore. No, I would argue you can't do that. Not during Star Trek week. It's a holy time.
Joe McCormick 1:18
I don't think we did in our core episodes. I was just concerned that by the time we're here talking about the movie today, like if we said the word Borg too many times this week, it's especially that word. And you know, some words are, uh, you get to semantic satiation faster with some words than others. I
Rob Lamb 1:39
don't know
Joe McCormick 1:39
why that is, but Borg is it's like high on that list.
Rob Lamb 1:42
Yeah, yeah, I would agree. But this one should be a lot of fun to discuss. We've already discussed it a little bit in those core episodes to the degree that we needed to in order to talk about some of the concepts. But this time we're going to go all in. It's arguably the most horror-leaning of all the Star Trek films. It really has a great time depicting the cybernetic Borg with particularly ghoulish enthusiasm and really leans into horror beats throughout the whole picture.
Joe McCormick 2:11
I agree. Uh, this is a strong movie. I saw this, I think before I had ever seen any of the next generation TV series. So, uh, I saw this with friends and I really had to have friends explain to me like what's Picard's deal, you know, who are all these characters, what do they do? Uh, but then again, it's the kind of movie that you can just plop in without really knowing anything about the show and you can still enjoy it because it's a very, uh, It draws a lot on things you already know about the characters, and it does draw on the previous Borg lore, especially the fact that Picard was assimilated once on the show. That comes up a lot in the movie. But it works on its own, too. It's just like a tight space action movie.
Rob Lamb 2:55
Yeah, yeah. And that's a great point about your own history with it, it being kind of your introduction to Next Generation. Because I imagine that's the case for a lot of people. Like, this may have been the first Star Trek they had seen. Like, maybe they hadn't seen any of the other films, or maybe they were only familiar with old school Star Trek. And maybe they just hadn't seen any Next Generation. And it's, of course, for me, it's really hard to sort of put all that other stuff out of my head and try to enjoy the movie on that level. But I was trying to do at least a little of it as I was watching it, like thinking, okay, they're establishing this. They're establishing the previous assimilation. They're letting us know this is what the Borg do.
Rob Lamb 3:34
This is how they work and so forth.
Joe McCormick 3:37
I also take your point about it being the most horror-oriented of the Star Trek movies, though I'll admit this is actually the only next-generation cast movie I have seen. I think I've seen all of the original series cast movies, but only this one for the TNG cast. Maybe this isn't fair, but I've heard that the other TNG cast movies are not so great.
Rob Lamb 4:00
That's my understanding as well. I have to admit that this is also the only next-generation film that I've seen. Um, and that some of that has to do with what I'd heard about them. Some of it has to do with like, you know, where my life was when these films came out. But this one I definitely saw in the theater, I think.

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