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The ‘fridge cigarette’ rivalry

04 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

8.333 - 30.489 Rhiannon Joyce

This episode of Stylish is brought to you by Bioderma's new Hydro Bio Hydroactive range. If you don't stop, why should your hydration? Find the Bioderma Hydro Bio range at leading pharmacies and beauty retailers. Hello, welcome to our Friday episode of Stylish. My name is Rhiannon Joyce. You are my wonderful co-host, Madison Sullivan-Thorpe. How are you, man? I'm fantastic.

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30.689 - 40.381 Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

I'm just like having a great week. I had my mum's day over last night and we had like ultimate girls night. We watched the Kylie doco. I cooked dinner. Like it was just really fun.

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40.722 - 51.435 Rhiannon Joyce

Nothing better than reverting back to that mother-daughter like childlike state. I always do that with my mum. We like do shopping days. I like hold her hand in public and then we'll go home and watch a movie. Like I love that time together.

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51.415 - 56.76 Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

Girl things, sheet masks, all the things. I loved it. Like couldn't have been more cliche, cliche if we tried.

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Chapter 2: What is the cultural significance of Diet Coke and Coke Zero rivalry?

56.86 - 76.959 Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

Can you give me a quick review of the Kylie doco? I am loving it so far. You know, Kylie grew up at that time probably a little bit earlier than I kind of remember culturally. Like I think I kind of came in to Britney, Christina, Aguilera. But I think just like the scope of Kylie as a brand and like the way that she kind of burst onto the scene. And I guess the size of her profile in the UK.

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77.139 - 83.025 Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

I was just like, my God, she's, I forgot how big of a megastar she is. Which, shame on me. She is huge.

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83.046 - 97.885 Rhiannon Joyce

Shame on me. No, no, I think I can understand that because it's kind of come in waves and I think she's had a recent surge and she's obviously such an icon in the LGBTQIA plus community that I think she's had a huge resurgence because she performed at Pride, I think, last year or the year before.

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98.026 - 98.266 Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

Yeah.

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98.286 - 103.653 Rhiannon Joyce

She had her album dropped. She was nominated for a Grammy. So I feel that cultural relevancy piece has just, like, skyrocketed.

103.813 - 110.903 Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

Yeah, and, like, the nostalgia of her is just iconic to me. Like, that is my song requested quite literally every wedding I go to is a Kylie song.

110.883 - 118.853 Rhiannon Joyce

And also the only reason I will be asking anyone for tickets to the AFL Grand Final this year is because Kylie's performing. I don't give a fuck who is playing. I will be at that stadium.

118.873 - 122.258 Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

We're not going to the Grand Final. We're going to the Kylie Minogue concert.

122.498 - 125.963 Rhiannon Joyce

Correct. Correct. Okay, Mads, word of the week. It's your turn.

Chapter 3: How did Diet Coke become a cultural icon in the 80s?

373.112 - 392.857 Rhiannon Joyce

One thing I really, really want to get into, and this is a bit nitty gritty, is how Coca-Cola have designed these tactics or created this rivalry between us. We're going to get into that right after a word from today's sponsor. Hold on. I don't know about you, but between a jam-packed schedule and now the arrival of winter, my skin is going through a lot.

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393.197 - 408.662 Rhiannon Joyce

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408.642 - 426.263 Rhiannon Joyce

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426.243 - 447.846 Rhiannon Joyce

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447.826 - 467.483 Rhiannon Joyce

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467.603 - 487.622 Rhiannon Joyce

A lot of people think they're the same, and I've witnessed myself firsthand so many arguments over how are they different. So I'm going to give you a bit of a breakdown. Both drinks are zero calories and sugar-free, but Diet Coke has more caffeine in it, significantly more. Yeah. So that's the fundamental ingredients difference. People will try and tell you that they are the exact same.

488.063 - 500.968 Rhiannon Joyce

They are not. And I'm sorry to those people who are listening to this right now, but you are technically wrong from an ingredients point of view. But interestingly, from a branding point of view, Mads, they do speak to different customer bases. Talk us through that.

500.948 - 520.015 Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

Yeah, so in the article, there was a quote from a Coke spokesperson to the Wall Street Journal article that I mentioned up top. And he said that Coca-Cola Zero Sugar and Diet Coke attract similar consumer demographics. However, their distinct taste profiles and brand identities result in each brand largely having their own unique loyal consumer base.

520.135 - 542.514 Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

It's clearly a passion point for people from professionals to friendship groups alike. One of my favorite TikTok videos is an oldie and a goodie and it's from Tony and Ryan who have a daily podcast. It's great. You should definitely check it out as a side note. But this is so funny and I feel like the perfect like just little insight into the way it's depicted among friendship groups.

Chapter 4: What are the fundamental differences between Diet Coke and Coke Zero?

1790.32 - 1811.667 Unknown

And it was so cool to see Nana. And Rube's now in her 30s talking to her grandma about what she was like in her 30s and asking questions that I don't think that you can ask in normal family circumstances. So it was just a fascinating conversation. I cried 10 minutes in. I wish I could have a line with her.

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1811.917 - 1830.474 Unknown

Ruby's Nana is just so thoughtful, reflective, and has an emotional depth to her that I think a lot of grandparents probably can't access. It's that reflective chat over a lifetime that you really wish you could go that deep with your grandparents. So, yeah, it made me cry so much.

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1830.854 - 1841.704 Ruby

To listen to this conversation in full with my Nana Kay, just search Inherited on your favourite podcast app. And Inherited interviews drop every single Tuesday, so we'll see you then.

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