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Introducing – La Brega: Season Three

11 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main focus of La Brega Season Three?

0.622 - 21.448 Alana Casanova-Burgess

Hola, Suave Listener. ¿Cómo estás? We're coming to your feed to bring you something special. Futuro Studios, which is our podcast division, has been working on season three of our hit podcast, La Brega. It's a new season. I love it. And I think you, Suave Listener, are going to love it too.

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21.597 - 43.056 Alana Casanova-Burgess

Now, for those of you out there who are new to the show, La Brega tells stories about the Puerto Rican experience. And while these are stories that have resonated with listeners around the world, I mean, hello, Bad Bunny, on La Brega this season, we go into the cultural battlefields to talk about campeones of Puerto Rico.

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43.496 - 73.204 Alana Casanova-Burgess

So what do we learn about Puerto Rican-ness by spending time with these particular champions? We're going to play episode one for you. It's called Who Represents Us? And in it, La Brega takes us back four years ago when Puerto Ricans woke up one morning to a toppled statue of a colonizer in Viejo San Juan. And essentially, it forced the question of who deserves to be up on a pedestal?

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73.184 - 99.36 Alana Casanova-Burgess

And by the way, you can binge all episodes ad-free when you join Futuro Plus. So easy to do it. So much fun. Sign up to support us as a Futuro Plus member at futuromediagroup.org slash join plus. Alana Casanova-Burges, the host of La Brega, is going to take it from here. And yep, there's some explicit language. You've been warned.

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Chapter 2: How does La Brega explore the Puerto Rican experience through champions?

107.12 - 111.887 Alana Casanova-Burgess

It wasn't just any Monday morning in Puerto Rico. It was January 24th, 2022.

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And there was a lot of anticipation.

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125.345 - 141.77 Alana Casanova-Burgess

For one thing, kids in Puerto Rico were going back to in-person classes, even though the pandemic was still in full swing. Some students hadn't been in a classroom for two years because of the earthquakes in the South. And also, on this Monday, the king was coming.

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141.81 - 152.145 Raúl García

The actual king of Spain.

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155.365 - 177.458 Alana Casanova-Burgess

Felipe Juan Pablo Alfonso de Todos los Santos de Borbón y Grecia, or King Felipe VI, was coming to celebrate the 500th anniversary of the founding of San Juan. His visit had been postponed from the year before, and the press was poised to cover three carefully choreographed days of meetings. They had the official schedule, and they were ready to tell us about it.

178.703 - 188.393 Unknown

donde se realizarán los actos protocolares. Los actos protocolares. Como parte de los actos protocolares, habrá una transmisión simultánea.

188.997 - 213.78 Alana Casanova-Burgess

Those actos protocolares, all of that pomp and circumstance, were in service of a bigger goal, according to TV analysts. Now, as a U.S. colony, Puerto Rico can't go around making trade deals with other countries. But the king was coming with Spain's minister of commerce. So talking heads on TV, like a former governor, kept saying the visit could spell investment for Puerto Rico.

214.28 - 246.493 Alana Casanova-Burgess

You know, deals, deals, deals. So the stakes were high when we woke up that Monday morning, logged on to Twitter or Facebook or Instagram, and saw photos nobody was expecting. According to police, the statue of the Spanish conquistador Juan Ponce de León in Old San Juan had been vandalized sometime around 4.30 a.m., although vandalized seemed like an understatement.

247.334 - 272.331 Alana Casanova-Burgess

In photos, we could see this green, bearded sculpture lying on the ground, face up next to his white pedestal. He was broken in two. Ponce's legs had come off from his body just below his medieval puffy shorts. Part of his base had come off too, so he was surrounded by chunks of rubble. The real Ponce de León had been appointed by Spain as the first governor of Puerto Rico in 1509.

Chapter 3: What significant event occurred on January 24th, 2022, in Puerto Rico?

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The statue is broke.

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657.616 - 661.121 Rafael Capó García

Partido, corazón partido. Alejandro Sanz, let's go.

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664.906 - 684.417 Raúl García

La propiedad común casi no se daña. Ahora que va a pensar de mí en realidad. You have it there, tell me.

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685.46 - 698.676 Alana Casanova-Burgess

Juanpi also rigged a bitmoji to look like a green-bearded Ponce de Leon singing along to the song.

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699.877 - 706.725 Raúl García

How are you going to remember colonialism now?

707.802 - 737.674 Alana Casanova-Burgess

There's a particular line he wrote. The statue sings, You all know that nothing will be the same without me. How will you remember colonialism? It's a punch, because in Puerto Rico, nobody needs a statue to remember colonialism. It's not in the past. And so far, around 500 years of Puerto Rico's colonial past and present were being crammed into one single day.

737.654 - 745.865 Alana Casanova-Burgess

More and more layers were revealing themselves as the hours ticked by. Potholes, earthquakes, tax incentives. The literal king of Spain.

745.885 - 750.731 Juan Pablo Diaz (Juan P)

I think Puerto Ricans laugh to get less pissed off.

751.332 - 767.053 Alana Casanova-Burgess

And actually, the more Juanpi remembered the day with me, the more pissed off he got. He remembered that the coverage was taking the vandalism of the statue so seriously, as though it was a national catastrophe.

Chapter 4: What was the public reaction to the vandalism of the statue of Ponce de León?

1426.481 - 1446.226 Alana Casanova-Burgess

And he specifically mentions, and I love this quote, he says, hopefully all conquistadors of the Indies would have been as benevolent as Juan Ponce de Leon was with the indigenous peoples of Puerto Rico. This is simply not true. because it's always that Puerto Rico is an exception, right?

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1446.246 - 1478.46 Alana Casanova-Burgess

That we are somehow devoid of racism because in our historical origins, thanks to Spanish civilization, we were conceived through mixture and tolerance from the beginning. And this narrative is always constructed by positing that there is an other that is racist and refuses to mix, and those are the British, and that is the United States. So at some point, though, you get up on the pedestal.

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1479.141 - 1503.343 Alana Casanova-Burgess

So getting up on the pedestal was not the plan? It was around 2 p.m., a little less than four hours before the king of Spain was slated to arrive in Puerto Rico on this fateful day. Municipal workers had been readying the base to receive the repaired statue. One of them had left a ladder. He put a ladder there and he left. And I looked at my friend, I was like, well, fuck it.

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1503.56 - 1510.848 Alana Casanova-Burgess

And when Rafael got up there, he did the Ponce de Leon pose. A finger in the air and a hand on the hip.

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1510.928 - 1519.358 Juan Pablo Diaz (Juan P)

Were you trolling them a little bit?

1519.378 - 1535.811 Alana Casanova-Burgess

I was definitely trolling. I had no intention of staying the entire day. And yeah, I stayed there maybe for an hour. It was long enough to make some news that a protester had delayed the installation of the statue. They took it very seriously.

1537.58 - 1546.672 Juan Pablo Diaz (Juan P)

After Rafael's pose, some other protesters started arriving.

1547.353 - 1548.695 Alana Casanova-Burgess

It was getting close to the deadline.

1549.156 - 1550.938 Brooke Gladstone

I didn't know how it was going to end.

Chapter 5: How did the statue's vandalism reflect on Puerto Rican identity?

1760.625 - 1782.166 Alana Casanova-Burgess

But something was wrong. The statue leaned to the left, like a lot. You couldn't, in good faith, stand back and look up at that pedestal and say, Juan Ponce de Leones, standing tall and proud and straight, you know? Adrián Florido is a reporter at NPR who covers race and identity in the U.S.

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1782.747 - 1798.251 Alana Casanova-Burgess

And when I told him I was starting this season with this story, he remembered a recording he had made for his side project, documenting Puerto Rico in sound. A lot of times when you're recording and documenting, you don't know what it means yet. And I think that's true of what happened with the Ponce de Leon statue.

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1798.851 - 1820.19 Alana Casanova-Burgess

Adrienne had followed the movement to remove statues of Confederate generals and other figures. And this moment of reflection that a lot of communities around the world had had about their monuments. Who are our heroes? You know, like, who are we honoring? Let's put the statue in a warehouse for a while until we decide what to do with it. A lot of places said, no, we're not putting that back up.

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1820.25 - 1844.241 Alana Casanova-Burgess

It doesn't represent our values anymore. Other places have left the pedestals just blank and empty, you know, which forces a conversation about what used to be there and what isn't there now and maybe what should be there. Maybe there aren't answers to that question necessarily, but it forces people at the very least to reflect on it. That clearly wasn't happening here.

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1844.862 - 1863.869 Alana Casanova-Burgess

There just wasn't going to be time to discuss what this particular statue says about Puerto Rican-ness, or Puerto Rico. Adrián got there just after it had been reinstalled, and there were protesters heckling and pointing out that, yes, the statue was most definitely crooked.

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¿Cómo está la estatua? ¿Cómo está la estatua? ¿Cómo está la estatua? Eso está mirado.

1870.169 - 1873.964 Alana Casanova-Burgess

and he spoke with the Director of Public Works for San Juan, Raúl García.

1874.446 - 1878.643 Rafael Capó García

Raúl García, Director of Public Works for San Juan.

1878.758 - 1884.685 Alana Casanova-Burgess

I asked him, is that, did you put it up the way it was before? People are saying it looks a little crooked.

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