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Chapter 1: What motivated the follow-up episode on Jordan Peterson?
I was aggressive, absolutely, but I didn't realize, oh, I'm coming across as unhinged.
From Jubilee Media, this is the Surrounded Podcast. I'm John Regalado, and we've got another follow-up episode for you digging into last week's Jordan Peterson episode. Obviously, we would have loved to have Jordan Peterson on the pod. He's very busy and declined the invitation. We would have him on at any point in the future.
But we do have three of the people that he debated, Cade, Danny, and Zena. And they each had three very different experiences.
Would you call yourself a Christian?
And if not, why not? Well, I would say in the deepest sense, yes.
Hey Cade, nice to meet you. Could you just kind of introduce yourself?
My name is Cade. I do a lot of yapping on the internet related to religion, queer identity, philosophy, and just about everything in between. My background is that I grew up in the liberal Western suburbs of Minneapolis, kind of a open and affirming environment. And I knew that I was gay from a young age, but was never comfortable with it. And so went deep down the religious rabbit hole.
Um, and was studying to become a Catholic priest. And so I was at church two to three times every single day was going to commit the rest of my life to being a cloistered monastic monk. Um, yeah, all the way into the religion, read a ton of Peterson.
And then two years ago I started realizing like, wait, the church is asking like a huge thing from me, which is to be celibate for the rest of my life. I should probably have good evidence to back that up.
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Chapter 2: What personal experiences shaped Cade's beliefs?
And I think what Danny did is put Peterson's feet to the fire by not allowing him to escape very direct and very obvious questions. I don't think Danny's question was some sort of crazy gotcha. I don't think that Danny was being disingenuous.
I just think for the first time Peterson was told to his face to like answer a basic question that you know what people mean when they're asking the question.
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Danny, it's nice to meet you. Well, thanks for having me on. I have to say, the interaction that you had with Jordan, that's probably the first interaction I've seen on the show where I audibly gasped.
That could be good or bad. Either you're a Christian or you're not. Which one is it?
I could be either of them, but I don't have to tell you.
What does it feel like to see that clip going around the internet?
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