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Switched on Pop

Samara Cyn is rap's best new writer

08 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

8.3 - 10.429 Charlie Harding

Welcome to Switched on Pop. I'm songwriter Charlie Harding.

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10.851 - 32.983 Samara Cyn

My favorite rapper right now is hands down Samara Sin. And it's not an original take.

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33.064 - 54.772 Charlie Harding

I get it. She has been co-signed by Lauren Hill, Erykah Badu, and Nas. XXL named her one of 2025's freshman class. Alumni include Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Megan Thee Stallion, Tyler The Creator. She's received the South by Southwest Grilka Prize. She's part of Rolling Stone's Feature 25, Billboard's Hip Hop Rookie of the Month, and an EP she put out last summer called Backroads.

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Chapter 2: Who is Samara Cyn and what makes her a standout in hip-hop?

54.972 - 56.994 Charlie Harding

Spin called the sixth best of the year.

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57.515 - 70.409 Samara Cyn

She came up through spoken word and poetry and learned to rap by studying Slick Rick and Loopy Fiasco.

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70.449 - 72.732 Charlie Harding

She is quickly becoming one of the best.

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72.712 - 78.03 Samara Cyn

Falling with footsteps, can't fit in this shit With your love size, fuck lil' bitch, you tripped my first draft

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78.263 - 89.279 Charlie Harding

Now she's back with her third project. It's an EP called Detour. And I got to talk with her about it. So here's my conversation with my current favorite rapper, Samara Sin. Samara, thank you so much for being on Switched on Pop.

89.5 - 90.882 Samara Cyn

Absolutely. Thank you for having me.

91.002 - 91.983 Charlie Harding

I'm really excited to chat with you.

92.424 - 93.065 Samara Cyn

Yeah, I'm excited too.

93.085 - 95.068 Charlie Harding

All right. So Detour.

Chapter 3: What is the concept behind Samara Cyn's EP 'Detour'?

359.94 - 364.669 Samara Cyn

He's like, look what I got. And he pulls out this fretless bass. He's like, yeah, it's going to get crazy here today.

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364.649 - 388.395 Samara Cyn

every single song he's like like he's so into it and he played a lot of like um instruments on the entire project and it was just it was a lot of fun he was so excited about it we were excited about it too but yeah it makes it feel really alive at the beginning and then you're kind of warming up at the beginning because sort of like yeah giving yourself almost like a mantra it feels like yeah which then busts open into break beats yeah

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394.687 - 397.391 Charlie Harding

Just tell me about that musical gesture that you're wanting to say.

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398.092 - 428.564 Samara Cyn

Yeah. I think unpolished sometimes is viewed as like maybe chaotic sometimes and like unrefined. And so we were trying to find a way to showcase that sonically. And it needed a switch. The beginning was very sweet. Yeah. And quiet and the build came pretty like naturally, you know, it's like, okay, get this build going. But it just, it needed to go somewhere bigger.

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428.725 - 435.257 Samara Cyn

And I, again, it's like, it immediately felt like the intro. And so I'm like, this is going to have to represent, you

435.237 - 465.16 Samara Cyn

the project in a way like I think we just need to let it be like loud and ridiculous at the end and so once we got the drum and bass sent in by Lucas this guy named Lucas so it just was like a drum loop um live drum loop and Para like got the drum loop and we were like that's exactly yep okay like immediately the whole room like kind of confirmed the thing and then it snowballed from there into being like what it was um

465.14 - 484.815 Samara Cyn

I had gotten this, it's like a pill bottle and it says like writer's block relief and you can open it. And in the pills, there are little like scripts or like prompts that you can like read through to get ideas and stuff. And a lot of them were really corny, but some of them were actually really cool challenges. And do you remember any of them?

485.276 - 503.132 Samara Cyn

Like some of the corny ones were like, you know, write a song about your pet. I don't know, there was other stuff, too. Like, write a song about, like, write a love song to an object or, like, that type of stuff, which was kind of cool. But there were two that were really interesting that we actually ended up trying to, like, utilize. And one was try to write a song without any pronouns.

503.553 - 527.985 Samara Cyn

I, we, they, he, her, anything. No pronouns at all, which is, like, a lot of times when you're writing, you're writing about someone and, like, or myself or I, da-da-da-da-da. So that was really interesting to try to, like, find... A song with like less naming of self, like it's just about something. That's how we got the outro. But the first one was write a song with 20 words or less.

Chapter 4: How does Samara Cyn explore the theme of freedom in her music?

600.805 - 605.272 Charlie Harding

And yet, when I listen to your rhymes, boy, are they like polished and thoughtful.

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605.392 - 605.652 Samara Cyn

Yeah.

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606.093 - 607.816 Charlie Harding

How do you know when you have a great rhyme?

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608.316 - 609.298 Samara Cyn

Ooh, you can feel it.

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609.618 - 610.62 Charlie Harding

Yeah? Where do you feel it?

611.02 - 622.738 Samara Cyn

Ooh, I think in your chest. I think when I write something and I'm like, ah, you know, I can like laugh and giggle after. Then it's like, okay, I feel like I'm cooking for real.

622.87 - 625.402 Charlie Harding

Do you have an example on Detour where you really felt that?

625.643 - 665.602 Samara Cyn

Honestly, highest. I felt that on highest. Not necessarily in like the rap verse though. The hook was just insane, and it felt good in the room. That was the only song where we were all in the room for that song together. All the other days, people popped in and out of the camp and stuff, and we were listening to it back, and it ended, and we're all like... Jesus, like, okay, cool.

665.622 - 693.208 Samara Cyn

Like, this feels like the one from the project that is going to be the thing. Like, it just felt good in your body. Like, warm and good in your body. Lyrically, though, like, I don't know. Maybe, like, cadence-wise, I have one called Ooh Shit. Can I guess? Yeah. Yeah. It's called Ooh Shit. Ooh Shit. Get right. Ooh Shit. Toot it up. Ooh Shit. This shit go crazy. I do it so sweet. Ooh, bitchy.

Chapter 5: What influences Samara Cyn's writing style and lyrical techniques?

1056.437 - 1080.692 Samara Cyn

People ask me this. I say something different every single time. I know when I chose to make music, I still sometimes don't think that I have it. So I think it's just like you want to get vulnerable. You know what I mean? I think there's still times where I'm like, I don't know. This is for me. And that's just like the raw side of the thing. But I try not to make decisions that are based in fear.

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1080.672 - 1092.892 Samara Cyn

For anybody low-key, go do the thing. And even if you don't have the confidence, do it anyway. Fake it. You know what I'm saying? Fake it like you can. And then nine times out of ten, you will cross the bridge.

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1093.072 - 1103.71 Charlie Harding

Well, because this song, especially compared to listening to Oh Shit, it's like, oh, wait a minute. I'm seeing... You're showing us both sides of how much you both believe in yourself, but also that internal mind that everybody has.

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1115.57 - 1139.569 Charlie Harding

pretty much everyone i've ever spoken to unless they're a complete total narcissist has that internal mind that internal voice that says you're not good enough right this will never happen for you all that kind of stuff right why do you want to show both sides of that well i think it's just like not like real yeah that's simple it's real yeah

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1139.549 - 1156.275 Samara Cyn

And I mean, to be fair, I don't make music for nobody else but me. The act of writing the music and making the music, I think it's really therapeutic. And it's a way for me to voice my thoughts. I live by myself. You know what I mean? It's not a lot of people that I...

1156.255 - 1182.735 Samara Cyn

talk to outside of like talking to my music and so like it's me rationalizing all of these things every single introspective thing that I talk about is something that I'm currently working through that space currently working through that thing and I think that's how you get like the raw emotion out of something like you have to connect to it in some type of way and I think that's like the times where I'm the most honest about whether it's like insecurity or pride or like ego or

1182.715 - 1187.782 Samara Cyn

I think people can relate to that because we all have those thoughts and feelings, you know?

1188.162 - 1188.523 Charlie Harding

It's honest.

1188.863 - 1189.744 Samara Cyn

Yeah, exactly.

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