Tove Lo wants her music to sound out of control (ft. Tove Lo)

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Charlie Harding 0:00
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Charlie Harding 1:09
Welcome to Switched on Pop. I'm
Nate Sloan 1:10
musicologist Nate Sloan and I'm songwriter Charlie Harding. And today we're talking to the artist Tuvalu.
Charlie Harding 1:15
Tuvalu, in many ways, is the platonic switched-on-pop guest. She's had massive commercial success, but she's also maintained an experimental approach. She's a dynamic solo performer, but she's also written hits for other artists. She approaches music with raw viscerality, but she's also deeply thoughtful and intellectual about her craft. It's the kind of dualities that make for our favorite brand of. Tuva has collaborated with Nick Jonas, Flume, Charlie XEX, Alesso Coldplay, and Major Laser. She's written tracks for Lord, Zara Larson, and Ellie Golding, and she's released four studio albums of her own. Now she has a new release, Estrus, which combines Tuvalu's signature aesthetic with lyrics of hedonistic release and philosophic questioning.
Charlie Harding 2:04
In short, It's something only Tuvalu could make. Here's our conversation.
Charlie Harding 2:19
Tuvalu, welcome to switched on pop.
Tove Lo 2:21
Thank you so much for having me. I'm very excited to be here.
Charlie Harding 2:24
We've been Discussing breaking down your music for over a decade, but we've never had the chance to speak to you in person.
Tove Lo 2:31
Now we've got about six albums to go through.
Charlie Harding 2:35
Well we wanna start with your your latest album, Estrus. And we wanna start right at the very beginning with a track called A Lot of Feelings, No Solutions. Yes. Let's listen to that.
Unknown 2:47
I got a lot of feelin'. But no solutions. Buddha but uh
Charlie Harding 3:00
Why was this the album opener?
Tove Lo 3:02
It goes back to me having writer's block in LA in October twenty twenty four when Ludwig, who is my, you know, main producer, have done most of my music with. We're spending a month and a late to like start the next album. And usually when me and him get together, like we always get something that we love. We always find the, you know, the core that at least the start of it, you know, the seed. And we spent a month together and we got nothing. I was really like taking him for like quite the runaround. Like I was just like it's just like, No, not this, I'm not feeling this. You know what? I have a new idea and he was just like, Okay, like trying to, you know, be there with me on my journey. But Uh, after a month it was like, I don't like any of the songs.
Tove Lo 3:41
He's like, No, I kinda me neither. Like I don't know what we were doing, but this isn't it. And it was kinda like, Okay, let's just take a break, like go live your life, do other things, like write for other people, like just get out of your own head for a while and then when you feel like you have something to say, come back to me, kind of thing. And so I did that. I came back to him and I was like, listen, let's go to the little sort of fishing village where I would spend all my summers as a kid in the off season, where it's completely empty, no people around, and we'll just lock in for another month and like really go for it there and see what happens. And if I don't come if we don't come out with anything after that, maybe I'll just need to stop music altogether.

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