Songwriter Ross Golan comes over to start up a conversation, encouraging us to follow his lead and give Ed Sheeran's chart-annihilating record "Shape of You" a chance. Ross, a studio vet with multiple #1 hits (including numbers discussed on this very podcast, such as Ariana Grande's "Dangerous Woman" and Selena Gomez's "Same Old Love") is the ideal guest to convince a skeptical Charlie and Nate that Sheeran might have a song handmade for somebodies like them. Plus, Ross takes us behind the scenes of his own podcast, "And the Writer Is...", in which the industry's best writers break down their trials and triumphs on the way to the top. Featuring: • Ed Sheeran - Shape of You • Justin Bieber - Love Yourself • Kygo ft. Ella Henderson - Here For You • Maroon 5 - Don't Wanna Know Check out And The Writer Is... With Ross Golan: http://www.andthewriteris.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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