Amat hadn't caught up on "Ultimatum Queer Love", so Jon grabbed Sandra and broke down the series with her. They had just binge-watched the entire thing and that fresh perspective led to a good discussion about this queer twist on the original "Ultimatum". Jon was moved by the openness of the contestants. Could that be because there were no men on the show? Does the absence of male masculinity lead to real emotion? What other advantages does an all-vagina cast reveal? Is all-vagina the correct term for this cast? Listen in as Jon and Sandra break down this season in all its deep messiness (don't think it wasn't messy!) and check out what reunion decision the show made that Jon thinks is unforgivable. Who is still together? Who should be? Would an all-penis show be as good? Better? Messier? Check it out right now. This episode is ad-free for Patreon subscribers. Find out more at www.patreon.com/svh Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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