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Table for Four

Laura Smyth & Carmen Butcher

26 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What funny stories do Laura Smyth and Carmen Butcher share about their friendship?

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That's slutty. You're going to need a VPN to eat. Enjoy drinking in the morning. Oh, I love it. It's sort of the men's coat party and me just coming through like, we need to leave.

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We finish our voice notes by just going, all right then, I love you, man.

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I improvised.

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15.609 - 21.657 Joanna Page

I felt it, I went with it, it was so me. Hello and welcome to Table For Four with me, Joanna Pate.

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And me, Matthew Horne.

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Now, each week we interview famous celebrity duos about their relationship over a three-course slap-up meal.

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And today we are hosting best friends, and let's see if we can't change that, Laura Smith and Carmen Butcher. Do come in.

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Come in, girls.

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Welcome to Table 4. Thank you. So how are you both? We're really well. We're great, thanks. And hungry. Yes, I'm hungry and excited. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having us. It's exciting. Are you hungry?

Chapter 2: How did Laura and Carmen meet and start their comedy journey?

65.258 - 84.072 Joanna Page

Well, you did do your overnight oats, didn't you? I did overnight oats, but that was a long time ago. Can I just say, right, I don't understand overnight oats. I'm scared about it, but all I do is get stuff about overnight oats on the internet. What is, is it just, is it basically oats, but they're in milk overnight? Exactly that. Why? They're great.

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84.052 - 91.451 Laura Smyth

It's just speedy. And something to do with the enzymes, perhaps, of the breaking down of things, because I think you need a yoghurt or something, don't you, to break it down?

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91.892 - 95.381 Joanna Page

Oh, yeah, something. Oh, yeah. So do they break down more? So is it just sludgy and more in the morning?

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Yeah, yeah. So it's just cold and sludgy. So if you like hot porridge, it's like that, but cold. Cold and sludgy.

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100.674 - 102.758 Laura Smyth

Everything in that sentence is so disgusting.

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I feel like I'm not in the gang.

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Don't get in the gang.

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I like the chia seed puddings. Oh, yeah. It's a bit like you're eating frog spawn, but it tastes nice. Yeah, but it's a weird, nice texture in a way.

116.283 - 133.525 Joanna Page

How do you make it though, right? Because I went round to a friend's house and she knew how to do the whole thing. She put it in something which was half sort of rice pudding or Greek yogurt or it was like the white stuff. And then she put that and it was all mixed up and she said that she got it when she was on holiday and I've never known what to do.

Chapter 3: What are the challenges of being a comedian and a parent?

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I love that. Oh, is there alcohol? No, there is. There is. There is. Cheers. Cheers. Thanks for having us.

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Oh, are you just tonic in your kibbeh? Oh my God. Oh, I'll tell you what.

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223.83 - 224.652 Joanna Page

Oh, that's nice.

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224.792 - 226.035 Laura Smyth

That is delicious.

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226.175 - 232.788 Joanna Page

That's nice. That tastes like holiday. That tastes like Bacardi to me. Yeah. Like saying Bacardi and Coke or Bacardi and lemonade.

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Oh, yeah, boy.

235.614 - 237.779 Joanna Page

That is a revelation. Oh, that's nice. That does taste of holiday.

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Do you enjoy drinking in the morning? Yeah.

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Oh, I love it.

Chapter 4: What are the funniest moments from their stand-up experiences?

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100%. How many kids have you got?

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I've got three kids.

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What are their ages?

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279.076 - 287.37 Laura Smyth

So the eldest is 23 and then 10 and seven. Right. So different dads. Yes. So the, yeah, that's, oh, look.

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287.45 - 298.308 Mathew Horne

I've got a starter for you, which is soy roast chicken. Something Laura, you like. Yeah, I do love that. We've got them in lettuce cuts with cucumber, spring onions, chili, peanut.

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This is so real. That's better than overnight oats.

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This is so nice. Is this the sort of thing that you would do, or are you big cooks and stuff?

312.289 - 316.255 Laura Smyth

I am big cook. I feel like I cooked a lot. I feel like I hosted a lot this Christmas.

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How old are your kids? 12, 11, no, 9, and 4. You've got four kids?

Chapter 5: How do Laura and Carmen navigate their dietary restrictions?

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That's not true. That's how.

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374.839 - 392.974 Laura Smyth

You know what it's like? Funny people, that's it. You know that thing of laughter's the shortest distance there is to travel between two people? I've fudged the phrase, but... Once you find someone funny on the circuit, they're funny forever. But Carmen is so like, you know, Essex girl in London, you know, she had like a job. She was getting a flat in Bow. She was on the apps.

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392.994 - 410.262 Laura Smyth

I was on the apps, yeah. She had a lot going on, didn't you, babes? You're a bit younger than me. So I think the vulnerability of being on the circuit was like too much for her to bear. I did it for a bit. Why did you want to do it? Because she's the funniest person on the planet. Okay, that's a good reason. Genuinely, you're such a good writer. I love comedy, yeah. She's so funny.

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She's a comedy nerd.

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Comedy nerd. Proper comedy nerd. Go on, tell them, bud. Tell them about your journey. Proper comedy nerd. And I just thought, do you know what? I just want to see if I would be good at it. And I think I love the writing, but the stand-up, oh my goodness.

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What was it like? What was your first ever stand-up? We did our first meet together at Comedy Virgins.

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Comedy Virgins, yeah. Yeah. And there's a thing where you do a clap off, like in the top three of all these little open micers. I weren't in the clap off. You were.

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I think you were.

437.583 - 458.072 Laura Smyth

Was I? Yeah, you were. She smashed it. She's so funny. She's such a good writer. But, you know, when you start comedy, you do like a tight five. I swear to God, this girl would have 10 minutes of material in five minutes and then go, I don't know why they didn't laugh. They couldn't hear what you were saying. She'd be like that on stage, just belting out the funniest gags ever.

Chapter 6: What are their favorite meals and cooking experiences?

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And then she was like, I want to do it with my mate Carmen. So it was a little bit like, yeah, you go out in the trenches, Lord. You do it. You do the hard work. Always the rewards.

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I'll just come along for the ride. And you don't do stand-up anymore then, Carmen? No, no. Do you miss doing it? Do you know what? When you have a really good one, when you have a really good gig, it's like the best thing ever. When you have the bad gig, it's, oh, you think about it for weeks. What's been the worst gig that you've ever had?

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Just like bombing really hard and people like looking at you. Actually, the worst is when they feel sorry for you. It's not when they're like. No one likes pussies, are they? Oh, that's the worst. So yeah, I had a few of those and I thought, you know what? Yeah, you say something that sounds deprecating and people go, oh.

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Oh, that's what I was going for.

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It's supposed to be funny. Yeah, I think it's funny that I shit myself. Yeah, come on. Everyone can relate. So, yeah, I just sort of jacked it in and, yeah.

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But you're in the industry. She's a producer. Yes, yeah. That's not from your mum. Tell them. Yeah, so I'm behind the camera. You're behind the camera, but you're creative.

532.472 - 543.877 Joanna Page

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. So what's it been like doing your podcast together then? Did you know straight away what sort of thing you wanted to do together or did you have to have a while to, you know, think of ideas or did it just come to you straight away?

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Why don't you tell us what your podcast is about?

545.88 - 562.326 Laura Smyth

So our podcast called Shouldn't Laugh But with Laura and Carmen, we wanted to call it Laura and Carmen's Stupid Podcast because sort of referencing the fact that everyone's got a podcast, you have to have a podcast. If you've not got a podcast, they take you outside and shoot you now and that's what happens. But...

Chapter 7: How did Laura's cancer diagnosis affect her perspective on life and comedy?

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where they can really take a lot of time and be silly, just silly, silly, silly, silly, silly. There's so many podcasters like Caleb, like, or just people that just hard funny.

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593.427 - 608.875 Laura Smyth

And I don't know, someone broke it down to me about podcasts that actually they can, in America, have hour and a half, two hour podcasts because that's the length of the commute where they're like 35, 40 minutes, snap, snap, snap. And apparently it's linked to commute time that, In England, we don't necessarily engage beyond that.

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So we just wanted to call it Stupid Pod where it was about like Seinfeld, a show about nothing, where we just wanted to be really silly, replicate how we talk anyway, because we talk about meeting on the...

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We talked about meeting on the comedy calls, but actually where we really became good mates was we were in a group chat with all the other people on the calls, but actually then we just started WhatsAppping and we would just leave voice notes that just got... They got a bit... Ridiculous, didn't they?

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Where we'd like... We mostly leave... We always sign off a podcast, we leave... We finish our voice notes by just going, all right, then I'll love you, man. And I don't know why we do it.

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Just see who hangs up first.

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And one of the first voice notes where we'd only known each other for a couple of weeks, she left this long rambling voice note about how terrible everything was and then burst into tears, then kept crying. I was like, I don't know this woman. Why is she doing this? And then she ended the voice note with... oh mate, now I'm crying on a voice note and I'm still going to send it.

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Bang.

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I was like, okay, I love this woman. So I think we just wanted to, it's an arrogance, isn't it? Everyone does the same thing. It's like, wow, we're so funny. Everyone should hear this.

Chapter 8: What insights do Laura and Carmen have about balancing personal and professional life?

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Or Bone Daddy's, that ramen broth, mate. What's it like there? Right, listen, it's so good, right? You know how you'll go to like a ramen place and they'll have like little condiments, right? Along with that, in a jar, they also have a little jar of hair bands. Because they know you're going to go in.

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828.091 - 829.554 Joanna Page

Oh my God, that's so good. Yeah.

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830.015 - 835.065 Laura Smyth

Yeah. Wow. Because they know you're going to go eyebrows deep in that. Yeah. It's serious broth, you know.

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835.105 - 836.769 Joanna Page

Oh my God, that's incredible.

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So to keep your hair.

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Yeah, to keep your hair short hair, but yeah.

840.918 - 841.94 Joanna Page

Oh my God, that's so good.

841.96 - 842.922 Laura Smyth

Yeah, I knew you'd like that.

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It's amazing. Wow. It's really good. So do you ever cook for each other? You have cooked for me. Yeah. On occasion, yeah.

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