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Chapter 1: What are the challenges of recording a podcast in extreme heat?
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Hello and welcome to Tailenders. Hello and thank you for having us on Tailenders, your loosely cricket-based podcast. In the searing heat. It's so bad. It's actually so bad. Do you know what I've done as well? Just out of habit, I've made a cup of tea for the episode. Refreshing. Well, don't they say that actually a warm drink can actually help? Can it? Weirdly. Yeah, can it?
Talk me through the science behind that. I don't know the science. I'm not Hannah Fry. But there is some science. The science is because you said so. I drink it and cheers.
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Chapter 2: How did England perform in the Men's 2nd Test against New Zealand?
Coming up on today's TaleEnders, New Zealand's second test review plus Stokes Atkinson debacle. Women's T20 World Cup. Izzy Wong's going to join us. Matching's going to be here. He's been on his holidays and he's bumped into a famous person. He's got a story to tell. We don't know what that story is, but he's bumped into a famous person. He is a famous person though.
Maybe he just bumped into a mirror. Yeah. how is everyone coping in the heat? Cause this is, you know, just a little bit of topical chat just to get us warmed up. As you can tell my face, I'm really struggling. I'm being in the studio. It's so bad. We were just saying when you were fiddling around with your headphones, me and Jim were like, he's already got a wet head.
It reminds me of like, you know, you like,
you don't know but I play gigs and I swear anyway like the opposite of Alistair Cook so I walk onto stage looking like a dog that's jumped through a puddle I feel like that's how I'm starting this episode but that's because on stage you do have the energy of a dog that's jumped through a puddle okay yeah and that's a compliment that's a great compliment thank you so much heart and soul of any band that you were in you should end the gig there no not start one there's not much space to go from there
Yeah, but you do wear, you know, you wear indie clothes. So you pay the price for that. I can't go through the gears with the clothes. That's the problem. Like shorts and stuff is a real. No. Yeah. Well, we don't. Are you wearing shorts now? I actually am, but we don't want our rock stars wearing shorts. That's exactly what I mean. I'm not wearing shorts now.
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Chapter 3: What makes Matt Henry's bowling stand out in the recent Test?
I think a rock star's exposed legs is one of the most disgusting things. Horrible. Because a life of living at night means that your whole body really is translucent. Yeah, exactly. Sort of Mr. Burns-esque. Seeing a rock star in shorts is like seeing a test cricketer not in white. Apart from you, Jimmy. Yeah, it's always disconcerting when you see a cricketer for the first time in their civvies.
And a lot of them would wear sort of Gant three-quarters. Charles Tyrwhitt.
Yeah.
You're just describing Andrew Strauss. It's not everyone. I am describing Andrew Strauss.
Who am I thinking of?
He loves us.
He loves Gadsden. He loves a Gadsden.
Fee, do you have like the warm weather trousers? Like it's hot today, so I'm going to go for a lighter.
These are like, they're like, they're quite sort of, is it, are they linen? They're like, in my head, they're kind of like. They're not linen. That's a navy sort of chino. Yeah, they're sort of Chino-y. These are my summer trousers. Right. Guys, I'm not joking. I'm actually really struggling. I feel like I've got an astronaut's costume.
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Chapter 4: Is it acceptable for rock stars to wear shorts?
We can see that. You need to get yourself an air conditioning unit. I've got an air conditioning unit and Sharky said I'm not allowed to use it because it's too loud on the show. Oh, it's a bit loud, yeah. No, but you've got a fan, you need an air conditioning unit. Different, different, different. I've started sleeping. I'm sleeping with it. But it's, um, the part of the pipe is perfect.
But, um, I've actually got quite used to it. It's, there's, um, I think it's Rooney. There was a story where he used to sleep with the hoover on or something. Isn't that what it was?
Okay. Yeah, I heard hairdryer. Oh, because it was like white noise? I thought there's a story where he nearly burnt down his house because he left the hairdryer on all night because he can't sleep without the noise in it.
what next to his pillow blowing into his i don't know if it was on the bed it feels feels dangerous isn't it i do actually get that because that is a white noise situation i really like it it's very it's very comforting because it blocks out all other noise obviously there must be tail enders that sleep to weird sounds can we do that
There'll be a lot of people trying to get off to sleep with this sound right now. Well, actually, maybe this is helpful then. Maybe it's a wrong call from you, Sharky. Maybe the fan needs to be on in the background and then it's white noise and a podcast. You always get that, don't you? Like someone saying, oh, I fall asleep to you. And you're like, oh, cheers. Yeah.
It's difficult to know how to take that, isn't it? It is. It is a compliment anyway. Sweet dreams to all of you that are trying to fall asleep.
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Chapter 5: What are the latest updates from the Women's T20 World Cup?
I'll tell you what, we've got some good Rob Key, Brendan McCullum chat later to really send you off. Okay. But for now. Can we play Rob Key saying that no one takes wickets bowling under 90 miles an hour in test matches and then just play clips of England batters falling wickets for two years with keepers stood up to the stumps? What I really loved, let's get into that test review.
So the second test, England lost by 253 runs. It's one all, which means that's quite nicely poised for Trent Bridge. Final match of the series, deciding match on Thursday at Trent Bridge. One of the great grounds is going to be a heat wave. It's going to be spicy test cricket with Ben Stokes back, with Gus Atkinson back, with essentially the team that won at Lord's back. Apart from Wally Robinson.
But the interesting bit, you're referring to Matt Henry bowling really well on that wicket. And I'm really desperate to talk to Jimmy about Matt Henry and his skills and his bowling. And you're talking about Tom Blundell standing up to the stumps.
to stop people like harry brooke and then a couple of interviewers chatted to tom latham after the game and said oh did you see what australia were doing yeah is that is that why you're doing the standing up to the stumps thing yeah but no i mean it's been done forever but they said that they were doing it against last time you jimmy last time they played yeah yeah so um does that ring true to you
Yeah. It wasn't anything new, I don't think. I think on a certain wicket, it works really well because that wicket, especially day five, it was keeping low, a bit slow. You know, a batter is going to want to try and get out of his crease, take LBW out of the equation, but keeping a batter in the crease just helps Henry.
And I think Blundell's one of the, you know, I thought he was faultless, stood up to the stumps, what I saw of it. Brilliant. So obviously you need the keeper to be able to be competent enough to do it. But I think it's so popular around the world now that most keepers are good at it.
I don't know if I've ever seen anyone do it to you, Jim. I might have anyone tried it to you?
Yeah. I don't know if I remember that. Yeah, I'm trying to think. So I actually did it this week at Derby for an over. Tom Moores stood up to the stumps to me.
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Chapter 6: How can the Tailenders community help Issy Wong with her sticker album?
But I've definitely done it in test matches in certain places. Right. It's not necessarily to do with the pace of the bowler. It's to do with the wicket and the batter that you, you know, the plans that you've got for that batter. And I think if the conditions suit, because Henry was still bowling at 82, 83, 84, not slow.
Yeah.
About Greg's pace. About Greg's pace, yeah. Not as good an in-swinger as Greg.
Thanks, mate. I did actually put, I think I put that on the group at one point. You actually said that, didn't you? I had a couple of nice days at the Oval just watching meandering test cricket and the searing heat. And it was so nice, even though it didn't go Lin's way. It was amazing to see proper long days of cricket where we were like, oh my God, we're going to be here till half six.
This is amazing. No one's f***ed it and got out. Very much so. But watching Matt Henry, I thought, that's the sort of bowler you want to be, isn't it? And then I suddenly got wistful and, you know what's coming, Jim?
I thought, if only England had a really skillful bowler that could just nibble away and just really outthink batters because of years of experience and training and honing his craft and just...
really thinking about bowling as an art form if only there was someone who could do that around about 82 miles per hour and managed to get the top batters of a side out that'd be nice wouldn't it are you thinking about chris waltz yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah of course of course of course of course robinson wokes nonsense actually if you ask me he was quite it was good wokes i thought on the on the tv on the coverage
Nice man, isn't he? Yeah, just a lovely man. Stalking cricket.
And Woody was on as well, wasn't he, for a bit? Yeah, Woody's fantastic. Enjoyed them too. Yeah, Woody's great.
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Chapter 7: What interesting stories did Mattchin share from his holiday?
Like Chris Wokes does. But Jim, could you tell us what makes Matt Henry so good? Because you've played against him for a number of years, really, because he popped up onto the scene around in the test side about 2015. So he's been in and around the side for a long time, but often underrated. And this felt like a real moment for him on a big scale.
English cricket stage where lots of people went oh he's good isn't he but we've known he's been really good for ages but he's just he's getting better and at his age he seems to be really his stats are unbelievable at the minute yeah I mean he's always been a good bowler he's always had the skills and as he's got older he just
sort of has cut out any shit really. Doesn't miss. Just runs in all day. Yeah. He's really skillful. I think actually working a batter over, I think he's really good at. So, you know, to left-handers, he'll come over the wicket, round the wicket, set certain fields. As we've talked about, keep her up to the stumps as well now. Is that sort of another addition to his...
His sort of game in the last few years. Obsessed with that. Yeah. I think he's an extremely good bowler.
A savvy, humble, high quality, not especially fast bowler, working a batter out over a number of overs. Is there anything better in the world? No. So good. You said not especially quick, but when he did start, he was... When he was younger. When he was younger. And I wonder whether there was any... You see those similarities with you, Jim, when you first started.
We're all quicker when we're younger.
No, no. But you thought express pace is the thing.
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Chapter 8: What are the upcoming challenges for the England cricket team?
And then you get into these different eras as a cricketer and you go into an era where you... are working on specific deliveries and working on game plans for certain batters and it becomes less about raw pace and hitting the deck and getting those wickets and blasting people out and more about working people out.
Yeah, I think I thought that when I was watching Sonny Baker, actually. I thought, you know, there's a decision to make in your career and you don't have to choose. It's not like going down one path or the other, pace or skill. It's literally not like that because Sonny Baker's got both.
But there are times in a game where, you know, if you've got a new ball in your hand, you've got to make the most of that movement in the air or off the seam. So then maybe if you can sort of bowl within yourself, for Sonny, it'd be like 84, 85. And there will be times in the game where you can then crank it up to 90, 89, 90, if you can. But it's a real skill of knowing when to do that.
And I think as people get older, like Matt Henry might not have the...
ability now to to bowl at 90 miles an hour where you know i don't know if he ever has really but so for me like i felt that as i got older that for a bit you thought yeah i've got a spell or two in me at 90 like into my late 20s and once you get past 30 you're like actually i don't really need to to try and do that i can really hone my skills and be good at what you know be excel at the the skill side of it
I feel like Sonny Baker is going to find that bit of Tailenders because by all accounts, he is a real, a real nerd, a real sort of student of the game. And he keeps a little, keeps a little black book of ideas and thoughts and memories. And I feel like he's going to listen to what Jimmy just said and write that down in his little black book. So hi Sonny.
Do you have a little black book, Jimmy? No, I've never used a black book.
Any other colour or just no books?
No books at all, really. Didn't learn to write when I was at school.
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