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Take 5

Gotye Takes 5 from the archives

14 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of Gotye's album 'Like Drawing Blood' turning 20?

0.031 - 13.664 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

I think one main challenge I've set myself is to hopefully avoid any potential copyright issues with the way that I sample and what I do.

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13.924 - 14.184 Zan Rowe

Yeah.

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Chapter 2: Which songs did Gotye choose to represent his top moments from 2006?

14.505 - 20.31 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

Because that's a bit of a minefield that I may not have navigated yet. Cut that bit out.

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Chapter 3: How did Gotye's love for heavy music influence his song choices?

23.913 - 56.916 Zan Rowe

This month, Gautier's breakthrough album, Like Drawing Blood, turns 20. It was the record that took him from bedroom producer to Hottest 100 fave, showcasing his incredible talent at sewing sounds. The man behind Gautier, Wally DeBacker, has been keeping a low profile for a while.

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Chapter 4: What challenges does Gotye face when bringing his songs to life with a band?

57.357 - 64.885 Zan Rowe

But back in 2007, after a huge year following this album's release, he joined me to Take 5. Good morning, Wally.

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65.065 - 66.027 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

Hello, how are you, Zane?

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66.047 - 87.553 Zan Rowe

I'm good. This is one of the very first Take 5s that ever went down and the first time it's ever appeared on the podcast. It's a real joy to jump in the time machine and travel back to this moment. It was before Gautier released his worldwide smash, Somebody That I Used To Know, and before he got heavy band Carnival on board to remix his song.

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93.04 - 109.893 Zan Rowe

Why I'm telling you that will become apparent very soon. Home Bake Festival still existed and Wally was at a precipice, head spinning from a wild year with no idea of what was ahead. His theme, his top five moments of the last 12 months.

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Chapter 5: What was Gotye's experience with his first iPod and its impact on his music?

110.916 - 119.273 Zan Rowe

His songs, all Australian. It's such a treat to rustle into my archive and dig this one out for you. It's a real time capsule for all of us.

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Chapter 6: How did the Homebake Festival influence Gotye's decision to perform live?

119.914 - 125.466 Zan Rowe

So I hope you enjoy it as we wind back to 2007 and take five with Gautier.

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137.714 - 162.996 Unknown

Are these absolutely your top five moments or are they just five really good moments of the last year?

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163.178 - 164.5 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

Yeah, they're moments.

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Chapter 7: What are Gotye's thoughts on being a singing drummer?

164.74 - 181.881 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

I mean, I tried to choose some music, A, that I have really liked over the last year or year and a half and also tried to choose Aussie artists. I think I managed to stick with all Aussie artists in the five. You did? Yeah, but they did go kind of hand in hand with a few moments I thought were significant in the last 12 months.

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182.402 - 184.805 Zan Rowe

All right, well, let's kick in with the first one, Mr Josh Pike.

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189.892 - 201.218 Unknown

I'm a man, I'm a man like I used to be I want to fill you in Why did you choose this one, Wally?

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Chapter 8: What does Gotye envision for his future music and collaborations?

202.261 - 220.012 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

I guess I first saw Josh play at the Wesleyan in Northcote, just north of Melbourne, when he was playing to about, I think, 30 people. And it was just really nice, I guess, to meet him and be really impressed by his music and hear Feeding the Wolves. And I kind of put it on fairly obsessively for a week.

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220.052 - 224.86 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

And this was the track that really caught me first and made me go, wow, this guy Josh is just an amazing songwriter.

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224.84 - 245.481 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

and that was before in terms of how it maybe connects with my last year it was before I put my album out before things got a little crazy I guess like I've been insanely busy and so it does make me think of a time when I could actually get out and see some gigs because I'm struggling to do that at the moment and also just yeah see an amazing singer-songwriter clearly just at the cusp of you know connecting with a wider audience.

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246.693 - 274.32 Unknown

And then they wear the mask to go back to bed. Cause it's a shame to go outside when the wind keeps having it on. So for a little while they were out there inside the cave. And there were bears and bugs and leaves and love. And a dog that only loved you when the night came crawling home. I was happy there for a while.

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287.243 - 306.67 Unknown

You are a man of many tastes, but I was kind of taken aback when I saw that you'd added carnival into the mix.

327.625 - 328.907 Zan Rowe

Why do these guys rate for you?

330.009 - 349.785 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

Well, I do like a lot of heavy music. As a teenager, definitely loved a lot of grunge. Grew up listening to that, playing that with friends and got into metal, got into prog metal and older stuff as well as, you know, not so much, I guess, into really extreme, you know, grind and hardcore and that type of stuff, but definitely into some really heavy music. And I still...

349.765 - 367.627 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

I still, well, I guess I realised when I discovered Carnival stuff only about halfway through last year, it felt like I was just reconnecting with this awesome power that good heavy music can have because I hadn't been listening to any for years. And so it was like, wow, there is this amazing band in Australia doing immense heavy music that I find, you know, really powerful.

367.667 - 375.216 Wally De Backer (Gotye)

And it was not sort of a feeling I'd kind of been looking for or had gotten from music for a while, which was just really to be, I don't know, it's hard to explain.

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