How important is this derby for Man United?
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Talk of the Devils: The Athletic FC's Manchester United show
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What is the preview and significance of the upcoming Manchester Derby?
The Athletic FC.
This is Talk the Devils, the Athletic Show dedicated to Manchester United. We're back and coming up, we preview the 100th and 99th Manchester Derby. It's Manchester United against Manchester City head to head on Sunday at Old Trafford. We'll get into all the details of that. And also look back on the winning start to their Champions League campaign, beating Sabah 4-0. These three were there. We've got Laurie and Andy with us here in the studio in Manchester. And Caris has joined us as well. Hello Caris, you okay?
Yeah, I'm good. I'm t
I'm tired, but I'm good. Thank you. Can I just say Keris took on the match piece for me after the game?
Because you were like, Oh, I'm doing Talk of the Devils at nine in the morning, I don't want to be doing the match piece after the game.
Coming in hot air, isn't she? Invite her in trying to back you up anyway. Yeah, no, I
appreciate the backing. How much sleep you have?
I've had a good like seven hours, yes. Like four, maybe. Oh it's good works. Yeah, I slept like a
Baby. Um anyway, we'll talk about Sabah a little bit later on. I like I say, these three were there as well. But we need to talk about the Manchester Derby. It's always a huge game, unquestionably, United versus City. But the biggest Manchester Derby this weekend, Andy, since the last one. Michael Carricks. I knew you'd first game. First game.
Well that's true, they're all big, aren't they? That was a big game. Michael Carrick came in and it was a huge game. And the result made it an even bigger game. So when Manchester United win derbies, the growing importance of my memory. So it is the biggest derby since the last one. But if United don't win then then it won't be. The biggest Manchester Derby since
Basically, what? Do you think? Okay, if you want to. Well, just 'cause right so United haven't finished above City since Fergie left, have they? Uh and you know, okay, appreciate that one was was pretty devastating. I I'm thinking about like like the six one for example, which I in the end basically won City the title, didn't it? Goal difference and all that. Sort of. I don't know why I've gone for a negative. I know why does he look at him frowning at me like really disappointed? Shall I go for the two thousand nine one? four three. Last minute, owing winner. Why why have you picked these two out? Uh just because it's been writing about them recently. The fresh in his memory. 2009, yes. Stay stay tuned for that one.
But well, United haven't finished above City since Vergi left. Is this an opportunity to do that? Okay, fine. It doesn't look that way from the league table right now, but with City new head coach, Moreski, new players, will it definitely sustain that they've the form that they're sort of showing at least the results they've got. They're getting and obviously Carrick had a better record than City at the end of last season. So I don't know. Is there a chance? This is kind of why I feel like this is an important juncture, as important as that, because it could set off that kind of trajectory. Let's see, maybe I'm giving it too much importance. What do you think, Garris?
Since twenty sixteen, probably in terms of like eras, like Laurie was saying, in terms of City going into a new era, like twenty sixteen was that it was massive, the Mourinho pep head to head, and it ended up being such a like letdown from a Man United point of view. And I think that's sort of that sort of continued and the the power balance sort of stayed the same from there. So I reckon probably that but in terms of like in terms of Man United. Again, as Andy was saying, they stick out more when when they win but the cup final, if they wouldn't have even had the Europa League run and everything that that kinda came with that, wouldn't have had really much to to stand on from that what was it, twenty two, twelve twenty twenty three, twenty four season.
Two four. Four season. Yeah, so that's what we're doing. Yeah, so that's a recent one. Biggest
winner in the last five years that game. Yeah. The FA Cup final.
I
think it's I think maybe even bigger.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the preview and significance of the upcoming Manchester Derby?
0:02–5:43
2
How are the expected United starting XI and tactical changes being discussed?
5:43–14:06
3
What are the key midfield match‑ups and player form factors for United vs City?
14:06–21:20
4
How do ownership structures and finances affect United’s competitiveness?
21:20–30:13
5
What does United need in the Champions League to secure a playoff spot?
30:13–38:44
6
Which recent transfers and sales are influencing United’s squad balance?
38:44–45:09
7
Why is the derby crucial for United’s momentum heading into the international break?
45:09–51:11
8
When and where can listeners join the post‑match live stream after the derby?
51:11–58:05