Talking Book with Mel Findlay & Pat White (The Otter Field Survey & Monitoring Handbook)
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Who are Mel Findlay and Pat White and what are their backgrounds in otter ecology?
My name is Neil Middleton and every month we create informative content for you as we talk to important, influential and inspirational people from the world of bats, as well as other areas of interest. To find out more about battability, go to battability.co.uk. Now for the interview, let's do it. Welcome, welcome, welcome everybody. We're back. It's another talking interview. I have so been looking forward to this for quite a long time because I was aware that Mel and Pat were doing this book goodness, maybe from a couple of years back. And very early on, if I recall correctly, I said to them When the book comes out, it would be absolutely splendid if I could interview you guys about your experiences writing the book and what the book is about, etcetera, et cetera.
And here we are. We finally got there. Pat, how are you this morning?
Very good, thanks, Neil. Uh good. How are you?
Yeah, I'm pretty good. I'm gonna say I woke up this morning with a spring in my step. I did because I had to go up very, very early to travel to my granddaughter's house to take them to the nursery school before I then came back to get ready for this. So I've kind of been up since about six o'clock this morning, which I'm quite sure for somebody like yourself and Mel, six o'clock in the morning's probably a bit of a lion. Is that right, Mel?
Well, six o'clock's a bit early. I I'll give you that. If you haven't got a survey to do, it's a bit early.
Yeah, yeah. I think it's the first time I've been up that early when I haven't had a batch survey to do, so you're quite you're quite right. Nell, when you woke up this morning, did you think to yourself, Your beauty, I'm getting to do this interview with Neil and Pat, or did you think, Why the blazes did I agree to do this?
No, totally. I thought, yep, today's the day, you know. Before I get to chat to Neil, that'll be that'll be good.
Oh, okay. We'll see if you're still saying that in about an hour's time. Folks, before we go any further, I just want to very quickly formally introduce Melanie and Patrick. So, first of all, starting with Mel. Mel Finlay is a seasoned consultant ecologist. She has her own ecological consultancy. She's got well over 25 years' experience. She's known but not only for this, but she would regard herself as a specialist in auto surveys and as also a longstanding member of the IUCN Otter Specialist Group. An early adopter of camera traps, Mel realised the potential for this technology to provide much needed information on otter ecology. In addition to all of this, she's also a visiting senior research fellow at Edinburgh Napier University.
Coincidentally, the same university where Pat White is an associate professor, as I've said, based at the Centre for Conservation and Restoration Science at Napier. His research primarily focuses on developing evidence and practical methods in wildlife monitoring and conservation. Pat is also a member of the IUCN's Orter Specialist Group, and he is also a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management.
How did Mel and Pat first become interested in natural history and otters?
Thank goodness they abbreviate that to Saeem. Wow, there we go guys, that's your introduction. But what I want to ask each of you separately, starting with you, Mel, is where did your interest in natural history and in particular otters, where did all of that stem from?
Um, yeah, I was always always interested in natural history for as long as I could remember. When I was a kid, I used to lie in the garden. This is really embarrassing. I used to lie in the garden. with a a blanket over me and I used to sprinkle crumbs in front of me and I had this old brownie camera. I used to think the birds would come down and I'll be able to take a photograph. But Plus I know my neighbours must have thought Yeah you know, I had an interest in birds, I had an interest in well, just in everything, invertebrates, in jam jars, in match boxes, birds, bird song especially. I I I used to go down the garden with one of these old tape recorders, you know, with the old fashioned tape in
Yeah, yeah.
trying to record the dawn chorus, but all you can hear is my feet going sort of stomp, stomp, stomp, and then rattle rattle rattle.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who are Mel Findlay and Pat White and what are their backgrounds in otter ecology?
0:09–3:41
2
How did Mel and Pat first become interested in natural history and otters?
3:41–10:01
3
What inspired them to write *The Otter Field Survey & Monitoring Handbook*?
10:01–16:45
4
What were the biggest challenges they faced while writing and publishing the book?
16:45–25:40
5
What new methods and practical tools does the handbook introduce for otter surveys?
25:40–31:41
6
How can the camera‑trap techniques described be applied to other wildlife monitoring projects?
31:41–39:43
7
Why is the International Otter Survival Fund being supported and how can listeners help?
39:43–43:34
8
What final thoughts do Mel and Pat share about the book’s impact and future editions?
43:34–44:34