99: Cosmetically holed

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How did the hosts kick off the episode and mention Laracon and Gen Con?

John Drexler 0:19

John, John, John, John, how are you? Hello, hello. Hello, hello. How are you doing? Oh, I'm doing great. How's your first week not working at thunk.dev?

Daniel Coulbourne 0:33

Thunk.dev, I skipped our Monday morning call. It was canceled. Great. Well, I haven't missed anything yet then. Yeah, no, I mean, it feels pretty weird. Instead of doing my thunk duties, I went on to, I got an email that said, greetings from the swag team at Datadog. We need you to pick out which pieces of swag you'd like.

John Drexler 0:59

You give swag budget? It's like you could have four pieces of swag.

Daniel Coulbourne 1:04

It was, I don't know if I understood how it worked because I went into what appeared to be an e-commerce store and they're like, select as much as you want. And then I selected basically everything and added up to like $400. And then you go to the end, you put in a discount code to bring it back down to zero. And I guess they have prices on them for tax purposes, perhaps. So we know a company that does this exact thing. Right. Yes. Wow.

John Drexler 1:33

I wonder if it was them.

Daniel Coulbourne 1:34

This was on a Shopify site. So, yeah. Yeah, that's really funny, though. I totally forgot that that was, like, the first thing that I worked on building at Funk. That's so funny. Oh, the irony. The irony is completely lost on me. But here we are. You got a nice young man haircut?

John Drexler 1:53

Did we talk about this on the pod?

Daniel Coulbourne 1:55

You got a haircut at Laracon.

John Drexler 1:58

I got a haircut at Laracon, and it wasn't the haircut I wanted. Haricon. Yeah, yeah. The Carolina Haricons. Here, here. Here, here. Lamborghini Haricon. That's something. Yeah, so I got a haircut at Laracon, and the guy got mad at me while giving it to me because...

What happened during the Datadog swag ordering story and why was it surprising?

John Drexler 2:23

I made the wrong face, I think.

Daniel Coulbourne 2:25

Which, you know, best case scenario, then, the man with the scissors is just going to make you look bad. Worst case scenario, you can only imagine. Yeah.

John Drexler 2:34

But yeah, it was funny. He... I don't know. I think... I think the key miscommunication, I sat down in the chair and I said, my hair is normally curlier than this, but I used like hotel shampoo and conditioner. So it looks weird. Okay. And I think what he heard is my hair is naturally curly and I hate that about myself. Oh, just get rid of all the curls. Yeah. He says, I'll just give you a low fade then. Yeah. and then uh he asked a couple of questions which i answered in the way i normally do when uh when the lady with the small tattoos in south philly cuts my hair um i answered them in a similar way and i was expecting a few follow-up questions more but he goes oh yeah yeah i got it i got it i got it yeah yeah

John Drexler 3:30

I was like, okay, he's got it.

Daniel Coulbourne 3:31

He's got it.

John Drexler 3:32

He's a professional.

Daniel Coulbourne 3:33

Yeah. Would you ever want to, it feels rude at that point to say, can we pause just one second and make sure that you got it? Sorry, brother. Let's just slow this down a little bit. Why don't you repeat it back to me in your own words?

John Drexler 3:48

So I allowed this guy to go with his gut. Go with God. Go with God. Go with God. And there was like a moment where he like took a snip and I was like, oh, oh.

Daniel Coulbourne 4:01

And then but that incredible feeling at a haircut where you go, well, there's no turning back.

John Drexler 4:06

Yeah, exactly.

Daniel Coulbourne 4:06

It's like, well, we're here. For what it's worth, I think your hair looks good. I think it looks fine, yeah.

John Drexler 4:11

Yeah, it's great. But he took a snip that wasn't, I was like, well, that's shorter than the haircut that I think I described.

Daniel Coulbourne 4:19

That's shorter than a haircut I've had since I had my head buzzed in college.

John Drexler 4:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, well, okay, I guess the best thing we can do is let this guy go with whatever vision he has in his head because clearly it's a coherent vision.

Daniel Coulbourne 4:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, exactly. At this point, you value coherence over your own priorities. It's like, certainly me getting involved in this haircut is not a good plan right now. We're not going to compromise between what he's already done and what my old vision was.

John Drexler 4:51

So I say nothing and I start doing the inner work of accepting that I have a haircut I didn't ask for.

Daniel Coulbourne 4:57

Totally.

John Drexler 4:58

Which I think is on me at that point. It's not on him. Sure. Communication is everything. Yeah, right.