Starship Launch, World's Fair Retrospective, Sacks Spikes AI EO | Dan Shipper, James Rogers
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You're watching TBPN. Today is Friday, May 22nd, 2026. We are live from the TBPN Ultra Dome. The Temple of Technology. Another one. The Fortress of Finance.
The Capital of Capital.
Good show for you today, folks. It's Friday, Friday, May 22nd. We had our Wall Street Journal stolen from us. We only have the Financial Times today. But we're making do because we have a digital subscription as well. And we're going to take you through America's IPO boom. We're going to talk to Matt Grimm from Anduril. We're going to talk to Dan Shipper from Every. We're going to talk to James Rodgers. The Shippinator. from appeal sciences. Uh, we're also going to read through, uh, Brandon growls news roundup in the TBPN newsletter, tbpn.com. You can go sign up. Uh, so three key stories that broke since we last spoke a mere 21 hours ago since we podcast for three hours and then we come back 21 hours later.
We do it again.
We do it again. Um, Yesterday, Politico reported that David Sachs made an 11th hour appeal to President Trump to spike an executive order that would have created a voluntary program, voluntary program, for frontier AI companies to submit their models to the government for review 90 days before new model releases. I wonder what the benefit of that is. Obviously, it's good to have red teaming going on, good to have benchmarking, good to have other eyes on the project. There's some sort of liability that happens with the round thing on the table. No one in the TVP audience has ever seen this. Can you describe what this is, this round-shaped argument?
I'm still not exactly sure what we're looking at. But I saw them talking about this on ESPN, and people are always saying, you guys are like SportsCenter for business.
You should pick one of these up, this object.
So I had to check it out, this artifact.
Brown oval object.
Yes.
Cool. Well, it looks fun.
Anyways. I was having a little bit of fun earlier throwing this at the gong. Drilling the gong. Drilling the gong. The production team didn't like it.
No. Because there's this $70,000 massive flat screen TV next to the gong as well as multiple cameras and lights over there.
But no accidents.
Wow, mandate of heaven over there, right here. Tom's got the tennis ball? Get out of here with that. Tennis ball. Anyway, so for his part, Trump explained the last minute cancellation by telling reporters, quote, I didn't like certain aspects of it. I think it gets in the way of, dash, we're leading China. We're leading everybody. And I don't want to do anything that's going to get in the way of that. The presumed text of the EO was leaked today. You can read it through this link.
Tyler, have you checked in with LessWrong?
Yeah, how are they feeling about this?
Yeah, I mean, I assume they're not happy with this. This seems to be like anti-safety.
Do they want more review from independent non-profits?
What are the implications of David Sachs' appeal regarding AI regulation?
for-profit companies that are run by people with good intentions or the government like democratically elected?
I mean, I assume at some level, it's got to be the government, right? Because if you're super HCI-pilled, these things are nuclear weapons. It needs to be the government. But I think on the way there, people are definitely like meters.
Is there anyone who says, like, no, no, no, actually, like, nuclear weapons are super important, but they shouldn't be regulated by the government because I don't like the government. I would rather my favorite megacorp owns them, controls them.
I don't think there's any people in this.
I mean, if you look at the popularity, if you look at the approval rates for different organizations, there are plenty of companies that are polling above the U.S. government. Like, people love Disney, Disney adults. They say, give Disney a nuclear weapon. They already have the rights to build a nuclear power plant. You know this?
I did not.
Disney World has, like, you know, legacy rights because when they set up EPCOT, which is an acronym, which I should look up because what does it stand for? It stands for something really cool. This also bridges into one of our future segments.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–3:10
2
What are the implications of David Sachs' appeal regarding AI regulation?
3:10–39:47
3
How does the Starship launch impact SpaceX's future?
39:47–1:04:01
4
What insights does Dan Shipper share about AI's impact on knowledge work?
1:04:01–1:07:56
5
How does the discussion transition to the challenges faced by Apeel Sciences?
1:07:56–1:09:55
6
What lessons does James Rogers share about navigating industry attacks?
1:09:55–1:11:47
7
How does James envision the future of food sustainability and community production?
1:11:47–2:01:48
Speakers
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