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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Number one hits, millions of records sold, awards, sold out tours. You think the Jonas Brothers are satisfied? Nope. It's podcast time. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Hey Jonas is available now and their first guest is a big one, Paul Rudd. You know, Steve Carell is a great singer.
Can you tell you not to audition for The Office or something? I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right? Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on. A Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman.
Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud.
But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome to Tech Stuff. I'm Oz Voloshin. For those outside the industry, it can feel like AI came out of nowhere and is now taking us all who knows where. That's why I wanted to talk to Richard Socha. He spent the last 15 years developing the foundational research and building the infrastructure that powers AI.
He's also, as of recently, a double unicorn founder and CEO of two companies, U.com and Recursive Superintelligence. Recursive launched officially in mid-May with a $650 million fundraise at a valuation north of $4 billion. And Richard is swinging for the holy grail of technology, AI that improves itself, what he has called a Eureka machine. Richard, welcome to Tech Stuff. Thanks for having me.
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Chapter 2: What is the concept of a 'Eureka machine' in AI?
Richard may be a more shrewder investor than I am. That's kind of extraordinary. Perplexity, hugging face, weights and biases, some household names. So let's take a couple of steps back. Recursive superintelligence is the story of the moment. You're also the founder and CEO of u.com. u.com was doing basically AI search before the chat GPT moment, but it's largely for enterprise.
And you invest in all these other AI unicorns. What is it? What is it you see about the world earlier than most people?
I spend a lot of time thinking about the future and how I can have positive impact on it. And for many years, like a decade of my life, that was actually making the technology work and doing research in it because it just wasn't working. And once it was working, I'm like, well, maybe just making it slightly incrementally better for a while wasn't necessary.
You just had to scale the existing ideas and modify them around the edges and improve them here and there. And then I just love all these use cases and, you know, especially some deep industries like healthcare.
It was clear that I needed support and help from people who deeply know the space, know how pharma companies actually develop and bring new medications and cures into the market and drugs. But, you know, every single space has space. has this opportunity right now in AI. Like AI will change every industry.
That's why it's sort of AI of X, you know, like, and then oftentimes you can think from first principles, sort of what would people really want, like in that industry? And can you make that now possible with AI? So we wanted to
connect some of the world's leading experts like Chris Manning and Steve Goldblum with really strong industry experts like Nick Kranz and our team or Krish and actually merge them. And that's what allowed us to invest in these really exciting companies. I'll just give you one example. One is called ParallelBio.
They build organoids and with AI, they are able to track the organoids and see how they are influenced by different... Like little collections of kidney cells. Exactly. In their case, they build lymph nodes, lymph node organoids. And so this one company actually got FDA approval to skip for toxicity testing of immune systems, animal trials.
by using these organoids in a petri dish being evaluated and created partially by AI and robotic processes. And so it's an incredibly exciting company that single-handedly could, at scale, save millions of animal lives. And so when I hear all these people saying, oh, AI, it's so terrible, I'm like,
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Chapter 3: How does recursive superintelligence differ from traditional AI?
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We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts are out there. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and...
Well, we were thinking of originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. Oh, wow. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines.
We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight reel. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of self-improving AI systems?
We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back.
Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets. Meeting the president of Turkey.
I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across.
When Jacob met Levant, this went to a billion dollar fraud.
But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive?
the largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told LaVon, you're ruining my life.
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Welcome back to Tech Stuff. So Richard, I want to talk to you about u.com. I mean, you founded it before LLMs were popular. And am I right in characterizing it basically as an AI-powered search engine, but for businesses and enterprises?
That's exactly right. Yeah. We now provide web search APIs for enterprises so they can make their LLMs, their chatbots, their agents be up-to-date, accurate, and have citations.
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Chapter 5: How does Richard Socher attract top talent for his AI ventures?
For Tech Stuff, I'm Oz Veloshin. This episode was produced by Eliza Dennis and Melissa Slaughter. It was executive produced by me, Julia Nutter and Kate Osborne for Kaleidoscope and Katrin Norvell for iHeart Podcasts. Jack Inslee mixed this episode and Kyle Murdoch wrote our theme song. Please rate, review and reach out to us at techstuffpodcast at gmail.com.
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Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on. A Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman.
Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud.
But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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