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The mental health AI chatbot made for real life | Alison Darcy (Kelly Corrigan takeover)

05 May 2025

31 min duration
4818 words
5 speakers
05 May 2025
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Who do you turn to when panic strikes in the middle of the night — and can AI help? Psychologist Alison Darcy shares the vision behind Woebot, a mental health chatbot designed to support people in tough moments, especially when no one else is around. In conversation with author and podcaster Kelly Corrigan, Darcy explores what we should expect and demand from ethically designed, psychological AIs.This is episode two of a seven-part series airing this week on TED Talks Daily, where author, podcaster and past TED speaker Kelly Corrigan — and her six TED2025 speakers — explore the question: In the world of artificial intelligence, what is a parent for?To hear more from Kelly Corrigan, listen to Kelly Corrigan Wonders wherever you get your podcasts, or at kellycorrigan.com/podcast.For a chance to give your own TED Talk, fill out the Idea Search Application: ted.com/ideasearch.Interested in learning more about upcoming TED events? Follow these links:TEDNext: ted.com/futureyouTEDSports: ted.com/sportsTEDAI Vienna: ted.com/ai-viennaTEDAI San Francisco: ted.com/ai-sf Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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7.355 - 29.096 Kelly Corrigan

You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas and conversations to spark your curiosity every day. I'm Kelly Corrigan. I'm a writer. I'm a podcaster. I'm a TED Talker. And I am taking over for Elise Hu this week for a special series on AI and family life. A guest curated a session about this topic at TED 2025.

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29.597 - 60.352 Kelly Corrigan

And I'm here now to share these very special talks with you, along with behind-the-scenes recordings and personal insights that shed light on the process of bringing them to life. So I was listening to another podcast and I heard this fabulous woman named Dr. Alison Darcy. And I admit I was swayed by her charming Irish accent.

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60.893 - 78.004 Kelly Corrigan

But also she has a very light touch in a very heavy world, which is creating AI products. therapy for people who probably wouldn't do therapy at all, anywhere, anytime, but nonetheless need support.

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78.505 - 106.325 Kelly Corrigan

And so I wanted to have Allison share everything that her company, which is called WOEBOT, W-O-E-B-O-T, has learned by trying to be in this very soft, intimate place with people when they're struggling. You know, when I was starting to learn about Wobot and Allison and the work that they'd been doing, my initial reaction was negative. I was like, oh my God, this is the last thing people need.

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106.405 - 121.922 Kelly Corrigan

People need people. This is like, I'm on team human. I want everybody to be connecting with each other way more eyeball to eyeball, heart to heart. I wanted Allison to go first because I thought that...

121.902 - 145.039 Kelly Corrigan

As my initial reaction to the whole idea of AI and parenting was kind of like, sure, like they can sort through your schedule stuff, like they can do logistics, but they're not going to get involved in the deeper interactions that help kids come into themselves as adults. Like that's just territory that will never be touched.

145.56 - 171.744 Kelly Corrigan

And then all of a sudden it was like, oh no, of course that will be touched. Of course there are cases where AI will be better than some parents at some conversations. And so I turned to Alison to say, tell me everything about the 1.5 million people who have used Wobot And help me understand how that might end up looking in the context specifically of family life.

172.264 - 195.277 Kelly Corrigan

To disavow the audience of this separation that they might have in their mind as I did. That there's sort of a logistics level that AI could play at. And then there's this very intimate emotional level that AI will never touch. I had to show them that AI was already in the intimate space. in very meaningful ways.

196.079 - 218.31 Kelly Corrigan

And so to start us off this week, here is my conversation with Dr. Alison Darcy about the ways that AI might participate in the most intimate consequential conversations we ever have. Welcome. Hi, thank you. So will you describe for us the average Wobot interaction?

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