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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hu. Today is World Ocean Day, recognized by the UN as a day dedicated to raising awareness about the crucial role oceans play in our lives and to mobilizing a worldwide movement for its protection.
There's arguably no one better to mark this day than with ocean scientist and deep-sea diver Sylvia Earle. She has spent more than 7,000 hours underwater. Yes, you heard that number right. She's witnessed the ocean at its most breathtaking and has watched it change in ways most of us will never see firsthand.
I was told 50 years ago to be afraid if I saw sharks. Now I'm afraid because I don't see sharks when I go diving. We've eliminated more than half of them since I began diving.
Chapter 2: What urgent wish did Sylvia Earle make for ocean protection?
Sylvia, who's known in the ocean and diving communities as Her Deepness, is a marine biologist, National Geographic explorer at large, and founder of Mission Blue, the organization behind a global network of ocean-protected areas called Hope Spots. In 2009, she was awarded the TED Prize and used her wish to call for a global movement to protect the ocean's blue heart.
17 years later, she returned to the TED stage to take stock of what's been lost, what's been saved, and why it's still imperative to protect the oceans.
We can stop trashing the ocean. We can stop industrial fishing. We must never allow mining the deep seas to sweep away the security the living deep ocean provides to all of us. armed with greater knowledge than has ever existed before we are the luckiest people ever to have arrived on earth we not only can choose the future we want we must
And I feel so lucky I got to sit down with Sylvia in Vancouver after her talk to hear how she first fell in love with the deep sea, how she's using technology in her fight to save the oceans, and the advice she'd give anyone who wants to help.
Just as I was about to lift off the bottom, I saw what I thought at first was like a big bag full of trash. And I turned and looked and then I saw it had eyes.
That's all coming up right after a short break.
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Chapter 3: How has the state of the ocean changed in the last 17 years?
In the same week that Google launched the first 10 hope spots on Google Earth. In 2010, at a TED at Sea expedition to the Galapagos Islands, we gathered together about 100 big thinkers to figure out What can we do to change this trajectory of decline? On the spot, a commitment was made to protect the high seas, starting in the Sargasso Sea.
Sargasso Sea Hope Spot, the open ocean home for turtles and whales and sharks and thousands of other sea creatures. Another commitment was made to create a film, Mission Blue, and another one, Sea of Hope. Oceans 5 and Ocean Elders were launched. Funds were created and secured to help protect the Galapagos Islands.
Five years later, with climate a top priority, TEDxC2 sailed to the South Pacific. Champions were enlisted to help with the protection of the top of the world, the high seas in the Arctic, and to stop the trade in wildlife like polar bears for rugs and for trophies.
Others were enlisted to bring about full protection for krill and other wildlife in the waters around the Antarctic continent, along with other great ideas to try to protect the ocean's blue heart. Sometimes I'm asked, so what's the best place to go diving? And I say, almost anywhere 50 years ago. So much has changed. These are coral reefs. They have top priority for protection.
We can't put them back once they're gone. We can help restore some of the damage that we've inflicted. But there's nothing like a place that is still intact after the long history that preceded humankind. There is hope. Because around the world, people are doing what they can to restore what has happened to the coral reefs.
There are Mission Blue champions in 29 hope spots that are growing and planting corals to help restore the damage. There is reason for hope. In the Nusipanea hope spot, you can actually see the progression from a damaged reef after some time of care and then restoration to what looks pretty good as compared to where it started.
I'm working with champions who are helping to inspire protection for wild rivers and pathways in the sea, for manatees, turtles, fish, and whales. Today, there are 169 hope spots in 116 countries. Mangroves are being restored in 15 hope spots. Seagrasses in 12. Turtles are being monitored in 26 places, 30 for sharks and rays. All of these places are creating awareness and enhanced protection.
I wish I could tell you about all of them because the stories are really cause for hope. But let me just share a few. Chile's coast and shoreline all shores were among Mission Blue's first hoof swats. They're now a part of Chile's commitment to protect more than half of their ocean area. When I first went there, we found one Fernandez fur seal, just one. It was thought that they were really gone.
That was a cause for hope. We found one. thousand of these creatures. In the shadow of New York City, the Shinnecock Bay Hope Spot is a place where people and nature thrived for thousands of years. But 20th century markets for seafood have beyond the bay, upended the system.
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Chapter 4: What are Hope Spots and why are they important?
A new class of submersibles is being built that will take scientists, visitors and curious kids into French Polynesia's twilight zone to explore a part of a vital global system of animals that migrate up and down in the water column every day, every night. Mission Blue is partnering with the Polynesian Voyagers
with Nainoa Thompson and those who travel across the Pacific in traditional voyaging canoes, like the Hokulea, following ancient pathways depicted on traditional maps, like an octopus. the head of the octopuses in French Polynesia, but the arms extend to islands across the Pacific, to hope spots that have been established in recent years.
A three-year expedition is currently, right now, underway to connect people across the Pacific with ancient values of ocean care and respect. where the subs, for the first time, they can go see who lives under the canoe. This is, after all, below where sunlight shines, where it's cold, it's dark, it's high pressure, but it's where most of life on Earth actually exists.
The merger of new technology and ancient wisdom My wish was inspired by the keen desire to build a safety net of hope spots large enough to really understand and protect the ocean that protects all of us. At the time, 99% of the ocean was open for exploitation. Today, 97% is still open for exploitation. It's time to seriously scale up. HopeSpots are helping.
Tanzil.ai is visualizing HopeSpots with global data on temperature, chemistry, fishing pressure, whale migration rates, land-based information to better understand the problems in the context of the whole world. Now we know. Planting trees, planting corals and clams, it helps. We can stop trashing the ocean. We can stop industrial fishing.
We must never allow mining the deep seas to sweep away the security the living deep ocean provides to all of us. Armed with greater knowledge than has ever existed before, we are the luckiest people ever to have arrived on Earth. We can choose the future we want. We can. Dinosaurs could not. Truly, we have a choice.
We can find an enduring place for ourselves within the natural living systems that make possible our existence. Systems that sustain us. Hope spots are helping. And you can, too. Hope is contagious. Hope is an idea worth spreading. Thank you.
That was Sylvia Earle, and stick around when we come back. I sit down with her deepness for a talk about falling in love with the ocean, what the deep ocean actually looks like, and what gives her hope after seven decades of fighting for it. Plus, she'll tell you the story about that trash bag with eyes.
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Chapter 5: How does technology play a role in ocean conservation?
Sylvia, thank you for sitting down with us.
Thank you for having me here.
Take us back. What made you first interested in the ocean?
Well, why isn't everyone? It's the dominant feature of our planet. Without it, we wouldn't be here.
Yeah, yeah. And for those who don't know, you were the first human at the time to go 381 meters down into the ocean, doing what was essentially the underwater equivalent of a moonwalk.
Except I was all by myself.
Right, so yeah, there's no team.
Except for all the life in the sea around.
And then you gained your nickname, Her Deepness, from this experience. What does the bottom of the ocean look like? What is it like to experience it?
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Chapter 6: What are some success stories in ocean restoration?
That's a big thought. No libraries. Part of the reason that we are kind of special in all of the life on Earth, we learn things, we share what we learn, and pass it on from one generation to the next. So when I think about the children of the 21st century, we're the luckiest.
Whether you're a child or whether you've been around for a number of decades, we are the most fortunate because of the accumulation of knowledge, language, music, numbers. So when you think how fortunate we are, we also have the best chance we'll ever have to secure... an enduring future for us within the natural systems that keep us alive.
We have not been doing a good job of respecting just that. What keeps us alive? And what are we doing that pushes the boundaries? What are the factors that keeps Earth exceptional in a universe that is beautiful, but I wouldn't want to try living on Mars, thank you.
In the face of global climate change, why do local conservation efforts still matter? Or even maybe larger scale marine protected areas, MPAs, which you call hope spots, why do they still matter?
Well, think about the phrase, the death of a thousand cuts. That's what we have been doing. Mostly, the greatest pain that we have inflicted on the planet has taken place in the last 200 years or so. When 1800, our numbers were only about one billion. Now we're eight times that number. We still have half the life that was in the sea when I was a child. It's still there, but we've lost a half.
Wow. And we're on a trajectory now to keep going in that direction. So the idea of inspiring people to make commitments, to take whatever place that they care about. It can be a small place like Fish Rock in Western Australia. And it can be really large like the Sargasso Sea, which occupies a fair chunk of the high seas beyond the jurisdiction of countries.
But whatever it is, if you get people to care and take action, knowing leads to caring, leads to doing something. Hope spots are places that started out logical places. Who would not wish to save the Galapagos Islands, the waters around the Galapagos Islands, the waters around Antarctica, that special continent that people came together at the height of the Cold War? Nations agreed together.
to protect it, to keep it safe. We need to do that all over the world to have safe places, a network of hope leading to action so that we can have 1,000, 10,000, whatever it takes. The high seas, that's half of the world. Beyond national jurisdiction, that's the global commons. Why wouldn't we wish to protect the blue heart of the planet? It keeps us alive. We need to keep the ocean alive.
You mentioned in your talk that you're using AI to help gather information about hope spots.
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Chapter 7: Why is the deep sea critical for the health of our planet?
advantages that we enjoy. But think of how we use technology to destroy. I mean, think about war. Think of guns that have never been invented, for example. Or if we'd never taken the technology to turn against ourselves. I don't know of another species that so aggressively goes after their own kind. I mean, really to try to exterminate other humans. The idea that we use the most powerful
technology ever developed to wage war. We need to wage peace. We need to take that knowledge, and we do, to go high in the sky, to go deep in the ocean, and to communicate as widely as possible what we now know and use it so that we can secure an enduring place for ourselves. The great thing that is saving us right now is the resilience of nature. If it didn't exist, we would be long gone.
We would have taken enough out of the system so that it would have crashed long ago. This is the secret for our success, to recognize that Life is a dynamic process, and it's fragile. It seems like we're here forever. Consider, dinosaurs probably thought the same thing, but they did not have a choice. We have a choice, and it's now.
It doesn't look really good right now, if you look at the evidence, but we still... I have the last best chance we will ever have to really understand where we fit in, make peace with nature, maybe even among ourselves.
If you had to give your average person one small change in their lifestyle that might make the biggest, most meaningful impact for their effort in order to help the ocean, what would it be?
There's one piece of equipment that I would suggest. It's called the mirror. Look in it. Ask the question, who am I? What have I got? There's nobody else who's ever lived who's like I am. I have superpower. I am different. And I ask that you identify what that is. What have you got? That's my question. Do you have a way with music? Do you have a way with numbers?
Do you have a way with words or with kids? Nobody can do everything that needs to be done, but everybody can take what they've got and do something. And sometimes it's like a little girl walking the beaches in Texas being disgusted by all the junk on the beach. Nobody asked her. She just started picking it up.
And people saw this little kid out there picking up the trash and first one and then another and... There are people out there helping to pick up the trash. It seems like a very mundane thing, but it makes a difference. Imagine if everybody stopped throwing the trash in the first place. Garbage, trash, waste, that's a human concept. In nature, there is no excess.
Think of whales cruising the ocean, munching on squid or fish or krill, and they, of course, put nutrients back in the sea. Well, it's not waste. It's like delicious fertilizer for the phytoplankton that capture carbon dioxide and generates oxygen and food. It's a circle that goes round and round and round, and it's really complicated.
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Chapter 8: How can individuals contribute to ocean conservation?
I'd never seen one. Nobody had seen one at that time. But it was an octopus.
Oh, wow.
Bigger than I am.
Incredible.
They're just incredible creatures. And she was just looking at me. And so I called up to the surface and said, there's an octopus here. Just give me a chance at this stage. I'll hurry back. So we're putting tapes into it. We didn't have the digital cards at that point.
Mm-hmm.
But I turned the camera and I just filmed and filmed and filmed and then I realized I forgot to put a tape in. Oh, no. I didn't have anything except what I had in my head.
Wow.
But again, I pleaded with it on the surface, please, I've got to stop. So they gave me a little bit more time, even though the waves were getting higher and the wind was blowing harder, but they listened to my appeal. And so I did get a little bit of footage of this amazing red octopus that had never been seen in Hawaiian waters before. And as far as we know, I did not bring back a sample.
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