1: Jason Samosa Part 2: The Collins Elite, Hybrids & The Disclosure Control System
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Jason, we're still here. You know, there's been seconds have passed. Collins Elite is a popular phrase. Now, you have talked about them here going back well into the 40s and, you know, even beforehand. But it's become popular again now. Is this largely because of where we are with the topic, do you think, at the moment, with Congress digging into this, with talks of factions within the government controlling things? Is that why the Collins elite as an idea has become more prevalent in conversation?
Yeah, I think that, I mean, there are many reasons why it's prevalent. I think obviously if there's a push for disclosure, which there clearly has been, there's going to be certain people resisting it. Some of those people are going to be sort of industrial people, private people, but some of them are going to be religious. And the Collins elites therefore come up as a name used to describe this religious resistance. And sometimes that name is used. to, I think, just generally throw onto someone who is being resistant for religious reasons. So it's sort of a bit of an amorphous term. But there's another point to this as well, which is even as we resist their resistance, as we push forwards in disclosure, there is then the question of how do we frame what's going on?
And so if you're the Collins elite, if such a group exists, which I'm pretty sure it does, and you're failing to stop disclosure, then you've got your backup plan, which is, okay, well, then I'm at least going to frame how disclosure works so that everyone thinks about it in religious terms. And I think that that is a very important thing too. I actually was very worried about that. I'm less worried about it now. But I still think we're only entitled to be less worried about it if we're constantly aware that falling into the trap of explaining everything as being demonic is going to lead to really, really bad outcomes for us. So there are many reasons why I think it's becoming more important, but mostly because we're pushing for disclosure.
Let's start at the beginning then. What is the Collins Elite? Because like you say, is it a term? Is it a group? I think quite often when I hear something like the Collins Elite or the radical Christians in the US government, I imagine that they have a meeting room that says on the door, Collins Elite. There's a big table with X number of seats and they come and they sit and have a chat and go, cool, so this is the July meeting of the Collins Elite. What's going on just now? That's probably not the case. So can you kind of bring us up to speed?
Yeah, to be honest, if they had a formalized structure like that, I think it'd be quite interesting. I suspect given what they're doing and the influence they have, it's probably covert. Although they obviously do have to meet still. But the interesting thing about the Collins Elite, because everyone whispered about it here and there in different interviews and stuff and i'm sure other people are similar to me i became immensely curious about what what is this i still remember the first interview where i heard it and i didn't even know what was said so i i wrote in the chat underneath the youtube video i was like does anybody know what and i completely misspelled it and they were like oh you mean the collins elite and that's the first time i actually saw the spelling i was like wow what a strange name sounds so mysterious so then i did what i think most people have done next which is i bought the book
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–8:55
2
Why is the Collins Elite resurfacing in public UFO debates?
8:55–20:29
3
How did the Collins Elite idea originate and what sources support it?
20:29–1:03:03
4
Could religious networks like the Family or Catholic institutions shape UFO secrecy?
1:03:03–1:16:15
Speakers
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