I am joined by first-time guest Marik Von Rennenkampf, a former analyst with the US Department of State's Bureau of International Security and Non-Proliferation and an Obama administration appointee at the US Department of Defense. Now a journalist, Marik regularly contributes to outlets like The Hill and has appeared in Skywatcher's recent video. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction 01:13 Marick's Journey into UFOs 06:10 Government Roles and UFO Interest 09:45 National Security and Drone Incursions 30:15 Skywatcher and Private Sector Involvement 34:51 Exploring the Psionic Side 35:04 Skywatcher Operations and Tech Focus 36:13 Public Perception and Media Sensationalism 38:18 Timeline and Footage Clarification 43:29 Whistleblowers and Government Involvement 46:47 Tic-Tac Video Analysis 50:01 Underwater Anomalies and Transmedium Travel 58:34 Mainstream Media's Disengagement 01:00:41 Predictions and Final Thoughts Check out Marik: https://x.com/MvonRen Get in touch with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast" YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠[email protected] All podcast links & associated links: ⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam⁠ ThatUFOPodcast.com⁠⁠ Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show Enjoy folks, Andy

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