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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Hi everyone and welcome back to That UFO Podcast. My name is Andy and today it's something a little bit different for you. Lots of great content to come in the coming days and weeks as things really hot up heading into the summer for the UFO topic. But just in the last couple of days I was invited onto Doomer Friday.
You may know this as part of the Night Shift show hosted by Clint Weldon alongside Xander Jones who is part of that team and from Dreamland Motel. Pavel from CicoActivo was on there, Dan Cleary from Others From Another Mother, both of those have been on my own podcast, all joined for a roundtable I was invited on, and this is a more than two-hour discussion we had.
It was a wide-ranging, loose Friday night conversation covering UFOs, disclosure, current state of the topic, where things might be heading, lots of great content. I play quite a big part in the discussion because I was the guest. I speak for most of the first hour alongside Clint and the guys, and then we have a really big discussion as part of it. And I thought you'd love to hear it.
The guys were more than happy for me to share this for you too. So here's my appearance on Doomer Friday, and I hope you enjoy.
Bye.
Hey, guys. Welcome back to the Night Shift, your safe space for talking about UFOs, UAPs, NHI, disclosure, and all of the other good stuff. It's an exclusive club, and you're in it. Front row for the most, the weirdest show in the world. I've been reading The Atlas of Unidentified Flying Objects by our good friend Andy McGrillin. He's going to be joining us today.
He's the host of That UFO Podcast. But before we bring him on, I just wanted to tell you guys, this book is phenomenal. And not only is it just a great read, it is so beautifully put together that When I picked it up and I just started reading it, there's a beautiful foreword that's written by Diana Pasolka.
And in the intro that Andy wrote, one of the things that he mentions is being the kid who used to hang out in the library and just like thumb through books on weird stuff, the unknown world.
poltergeists ufos the pyramids whatever and i was totally that kid 110 and i feel like a lot of you guys must also have been those kids too so um it's a real treat to have andy on the show today and i want to talk about some of the cases that are in this book and we're going to get his reaction to some things that are going on in the news there are quite a few it's been a busy news week
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Chapter 2: What insights are shared about the Atlas of UFOs?
So I stopped that. At that moment, I was like, no, no, I can't do it. Like, I'm not going to spread this stuff because it's ridiculous. So, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. One of my guilty pleasures before I started the podcast, I would really enjoy listening to Andrew Basiaggio on YouTube.
and he is he talks about that kind of similar stuff the jump program and he talks about how himself and a young barack obama would be sent to mars be sent back in time and he claimed he was going to be president in this timeline but every time the presidential elections turned up and it was trump v biden or clinton versus trump and he wasn't on the ballot funnily enough and he would say the timeline changed um
but I think he went blind and started a GoFundMe and I'm not even being flippant when I say that so yeah but he speaks so well and he can go for like three or four hours so eloquent bang bang bang and he makes it sound real
but i think again that's up to the individual how they kind of view those stories but because it gets wild like that whole obama as a kid was doing these jump programs and they went back and saw the crucifixion and yeah they've been to mars and they fight they've seen the wars being fought on mars and stuff and really cool what ifs and fun kind of fantasy but let's be honest what's the likelihood that that's actually happening
in a parallel universe maybe what do you think is uh well that's like uh you know we're gaia tv everything right like what's the who's the guy that does the interview the real softball interviews where he interviews like oh my oh so you're you were a space marine tell me about that I don't know who the guy is. Yeah. With a straight face.
And it's like, and then it's like, you could just say anything. And then he's like, cool. All right. Well, so what was that like? And you're just, you know, and then there's, they just spit out these shows. What do you find? Like, is I, I guess everybody's got their thing, right? The tribe thing you said is really true. That's an interesting point.
Do you feel like we've gotten to a UFO mainstream moment? It feels like it's kind of gone fully mainstream. Do you get that sense? No, not properly. It's not there yet. Until it's regular. I think the closest we have come to UFOs being truly mainstream... and you've got to think it's not just in the US, it's got to hit international shores as well, was Grush.
When Grush came forward, that hit the UK cycle for a couple of days. That was... And I don't maybe think people in the United States can appreciate because, you know, you're in a bubble in the US, really, politically and with the news cycles, whereas I think, is it fair to say outside of the US, we probably see a lot more international news because what happens in the States affects us a lot more.
So... The Grush story hit the UK shores, hit the mainstream, hit the broadsheet journalists. I had phone calls off of all kind of weird and wonderful newspapers, but serious people who were like, I can't believe this is true, but this guy seems really genuine. Grush himself shocked a lot of folks. That was the closest we came to this being mainstream.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of David Grusch's statements?
And I think that's the energy that I get from Trump whenever he is dismissive like that. It's not that he doesn't care, it's that...
doesn't want to deal with it like he he never has wanted to deal with it really that's my read yeah i'm not convinced that he knows all that much i don't know that um okay so let's just you know it doesn't have to be trump let's just say biden is the president okay i'll on biden for a minute uh you know he biden didn't know what room he was in Biden didn't know what shoes he had on.
Biden didn't know how to get from A to B without somebody holding his hand. He could barely walk down a flight of stairs. I don't think you trust a guy like that with this kind of sensitive information if we're to believe it's that secret, that super secret. I don't see how, regardless, you have to consider who the actual man or woman is that is wearing that suit and sitting behind that desk.
It's not just the president. It's a person, too. And they've got fucking, you know, mental problems sometimes, and maybe they're not all there, and maybe they... maybe you can't really trust them. So I, I struggle with this idea that Trump is like fully briefed in on all this stuff and other people would be kept out of the loop.
However, I'm also open to that idea that maybe he is, and maybe this is just, you know it, it just seems like it's so the people who get close enough to the center of this secret, however far away that may be the ones who get deeper and deeper into the, into the shadows of investigating it seemed to get pretty freaked out.
And then, yeah, to your point, Pavel, it seems like Donald Trump doesn't really react in any, it's just like one more curiosity. Um, I think disclosure is just like, you could have a slow drip of good and bad information coming out that is like a muddled mess, right? And that could be disclosure. And that could happen over a period of 30 years.
And at the end of it, you would have all the information, but it wouldn't really add up to much. And you wouldn't really know what you were looking at. And you really wouldn't know what is true and what's false. Kind of like where we are now. We're drowning in information. We just don't know what is reliable.
But what I think a lot of people want, and I think I'm one of these people, is not just disclosure, but a declaration. I want an official notarized statement from somebody at the top of the chain of command that is like, yes, yes, this is a real thing. Now you can, you know, as you were, back to your regularly scheduled program. The rest, I will go find out on my own. Why do you want that?
I guess if I, when we're talking about what disclosure is to me, that would constitute what I, when I'm thinking disclosure, I'm thinking like the president comes out and there's a giant press conference. All networks are covering it. I picture like. and maybe it's just my age, but that, you know, when Ronald Reagan is talking at the United nations and you see that fucking room, how big it is.
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Chapter 4: What might capture public attention regarding UFO technology and abductions?
Someone put up a comment on the screen a minute ago, Clint, that said if they acknowledged that technology was being traded for abductions, people would start paying attention pretty quick. There you go. Yeah.
Larry Jones.
Yep. That might get people's attention if that was acknowledged publicly and officially. That like, hey, yeah, you guys are being taken. There is a trade involved and we can't really protect you. Good luck out there, everybody. That might get people's attention.
Chapter 5: How do the speakers perceive the implications of government secrecy on abduction cases?
I don't think we'll ever get that. I don't think they would ever. No one's ever going to come clean on abductions unless it's the NHI. You know, that's just too dark. That's literally like there's a monster in your closet and it can come get you. Oh, and guess what? It comes and gets your kids too. But I'm with you, Andy, too.
On the Epstein thing, it's like that we literally found out the world is run by actual fucking demons. Like real dark demon monster shit. And they do go after children. And you're right. We didn't burn the world down. And for a couple of weeks, it was like... Everyone was sort of looking around going, when do they set shit on fire? When is it going to really go?
And now, yeah, we're drowning in information, but it's almost like people are so, I don't know, just exhausted by it all the time that it's like you don't even know what to react to anymore. People are just trying to survive the video game and get to the next level. People panicked and thought, shit, can I still watch Toy Story? Because if Tom Hanks is involved in Epstein...
that movie takes on a whole new like so does the name Woody absolutely yeah I wouldn't I'd rather not know do you think do you think they walk among us oh yeah the hybrids oh no hybrid pedophiles oh god um that's the that's that's grush's tough pill to swallow that's what it is we're gonna get so demonetized hybrid pedophiles part electric um so half alien half human all pervert
Fifty shades of grey. So yeah, for me, yeah, I think Bob Bigelow's comment on 60 minutes, I think there's enough chat. And I think that's going to be a really interesting idea that Spielberg brings to a mainstream audience. Again, I know there's been stuff on this in previous series by him and others, but the idea that these beings are here in some way, shape or form
I'm really intrigued to see how they bring that out in the movie and again it just introduces an idea in a big way in a different way in a different medium to a general public to be like huh it's not just aliens coming from a different planet
you know it looks like we've got screen memories it looks like we've got the kids being abducted from a young age these beings you know speaking through their lives so yeah I think yes we have some like I always quite like the video is it Vancouver where the two men in black walk into the hotel after an incident that happened the day before oh yeah yeah that's a weird one spooky looking video took in a man in black but yeah that to me is legit yeah
There's a member question here from Clolo. I hope I'm saying that right.
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Chapter 6: What are the potential societal impacts of disclosing non-human intelligence?
Or Clolo. Or Clolo. What are your thoughts on human mutilation cases and could this be part of the reason for the secrecy? Thanks for the question. Is that for me? Didn't that happen in Colatus? It's for all of us. What do you think, Andy? Do you have any thoughts on human mutilations?
um well i've always liked the idea when it came to cat not like the idea but with cattle mutilations it made sense that they were studying our food chain because cattle produce so much you know of what we eat and but then when you're mutilating humans it seems to be a lot more sinister that's when i would go a little bit more speculative and when folks talk about hybrid programs between us and them
and do we have huge triangular craft that we have developed with their help and you've got kind of black military uniformed guys kicking about with weird aliens yeah all the my lab stuff basically maybe that's where that would come in um otherwise it just seems they're more interested medically in the kind of sexual reproduction side of things
um so yeah they probably happen but that again that seems far far less common and sounds like a very human thing to do doesn't it because i imagine if our military if pete hexeth god bless him um cam guy that he has got hold of a triangle and was sent to a planet with these beings on it tomorrow and he took along some of his some of his guys for a party um i do love colin joe's impression of him and saturday night live and that's so good if if he took if he went along you would imagine
they would kidnap or abduct one of these beings and probably wouldn't do nice things to it 100% that's a very human way to look at it so either these things are just as nefarious or we're involved in that as well
On your last time, you interviewed Whitley Streber a couple weeks ago. And in that interview, he mentioned a case of a guy named Todd Seas, which I had not really heard about before. And it made me go and look up this Todd Seas case. And this is a guy who I believe people saw him get abducted or taken by something. And then they found his body weeks later.
His clothes were all over the place, but his body was just mutilated beyond belief after he had been visibly abducted. And I thought that was kind of fascinating.
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Chapter 7: What are the uncomfortable truths surrounding the UFO phenomenon?
I mean, it could have been something else, but it seemed like a pretty decent example of a possible human mutilation case. Do you guys know that case? Have you heard of that case? That's the first time I have heard of it. Todd C's S E E S. Yeah.
Weird stuff. There's a aspect of the hybrid program that I, I find very fascinating. And it's one of the ones that it's a rabbit hole that I always wonder about it. It's,
David Jacobs has always done... He always has the most interesting things to add to this conversation because there's so much detail in terms of what supposedly these abductees are being told or shown or what these beings are up to. And there's one story that he tells in Walking Among Us, I think it is. And he's like...
He's just talking about how weird it is to do hypnotic regressions with so many people. And over time, doing it so many times, hearing the same stories over and over again that keep just repeating the same things. And he's talking about how he's like, you would be surprised how many people
have a friend that they just always are around this friend that they know and they go everywhere you know they go to places they go to you know ball games and stuff they they have lunch together they just it's like a like a best friend type relationship but when you ask them how did you meet this person they have no idea they can't tell you they're like i don't know How long have you known them?
I don't know. They've just always been my friend. And it's something to do with this hybrid program where they pair up a hybrid with an abductee. And then the abductee is like the mentor that teaches them how to act like a human. You have to kind of like follow around so that you don't look like a complete moron because you grew up on a ship. When abductees are on...
On board craft, they say, well, I was exposed to a lot of rooms where there were people, and in one room there were all these little kids, and they were like in a classroom. and they're studying something or they're playing a game. You read about these individual abduction cases where they talk about stuff like that.
And then in Walking Among Us, it's all about what do we know about after someone is abducted and they've had reproductive tissue taken from their body, they've been subjected to some kind of breeding program, what happens next? And when these hybrids are raised, they're reintegrated back into our society and there's a process for that.
And he goes through that and kind of, they get an apartment and they have like five or six people living in an apartment and then the abductee has to come over and just answer questions and teach them how to use a fork and how to, I don't know, which end of a slice of pizza is the right way. You know, just things like that. Have you ever read that book or any of Jacob's stuff?
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