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That Was Us

Kevin and Madison's Bachelorette Parties | "Jerry 2.0" (515)

23 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What themes are explored in Kevin and Madison's bachelor and bachelorette parties?

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This is a HeadGum Podcast.

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16.805 - 40.397 Sterling K. Brown

On today's episode of That Was Us, we're diving into Season 5, Episode 15, Jerry 2.0. During Kevin and Madison's Bachelor and Bachelorette weekends, doubts and cold feet begin to surface. Kevin reflects on his history with Sophie, while the Pearson family shares their own perspectives on romance, second chances, and whether love is written in the stars or built over time.

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42.944 - 61.03 Sterling K. Brown

Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Classic. How are we doing? Good. So just full disclosure here, Manny and I have on the exact same clothes. Chris took it upon himself to say- I was just getting hot. I got hot.

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61.55 - 64.353 Mandy Moore

You're bringing it back to like early podcast days, remember?

64.373 - 80.95 Sterling K. Brown

We had all just like different outfits. Also, you took your jacket off. I did take my jacket off. This is true. I got warm. We just had to let that out. You got muscular. Thank you. I appreciate that. I try. 50, man. Maintaining the sexy at 50 is different.

80.93 - 82.373 Mandy Moore

I told you what Barb said.

Chapter 2: How do the characters reflect on their past relationships?

82.954 - 84.517 Mandy Moore

What did Barb say? Oh, you did? Yeah.

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84.637 - 85.438 Sterling K. Brown

That was very sweet.

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85.919 - 101.588 Mandy Moore

I'm giving Barb a shout out here. So Barb does hair. Barb's my girl. I love her. She's a dear friend. She does hair, the best hair in the land. And she saw Sterling at an event and she came back and she was like, Mandy.

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Chapter 3: What pressures do modern relationships face?

101.568 - 120.706 Mandy Moore

Sterling's the most beautiful man I've ever seen. I was like, I know. He's also my son. So it feels strange to say that. But yes, I do. And she was like, I was going to go up and say hi and tell him that I knew you. But then I just felt weird. I was like, if anybody would give you a hug, it would be Sterling.

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120.947 - 133.861 Sterling K. Brown

Well, and now we know. There's no fist bumps. There's no pictures. It's all hugs, Barb. I prefer to hug. Get a hug, Barb. I really do. Get a hug. Have you guys seen this tangent? Is it Barb and Go to Vista Del Mar? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Barb and Star or Barb and- Yes.

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134.322 - 135.804 Mandy Moore

I've heard it's the best movie ever.

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135.824 - 137.006 Sterling K. Brown

It's really good. Mandy.

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137.327 - 137.787 Mandy Moore

It's so good.

138.008 - 139.59 Sterling K. Brown

You'll pee on your side.

139.61 - 140.932 Mandy Moore

God, I love Kristen Wiig.

140.952 - 141.613 Sterling K. Brown

Especially after three kids.

141.633 - 144.638 Mandy Moore

Like drenched in urine. Wait, and who is, it's Wiig and who?

Chapter 4: How does Kevin's emotional journey unfold during the episode?

159.438 - 160.179 Mandy Moore

It's great.

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160.28 - 160.62 Sterling K. Brown

You love.

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160.94 - 163.383 Mandy Moore

She is so funny. Annie Mumolo.

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163.404 - 165.286 Sterling K. Brown

She's hysterical. Watch Barb and Star.

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165.426 - 169.451 Mandy Moore

Okay. She's great in Rooster. She's really funny in Rooster. I love that show.

169.471 - 169.792 Sterling K. Brown

Okay.

169.812 - 170.192 Mandy Moore

Yeah.

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I will watch Rooster.

171.394 - 173.256 Sterling K. Brown

Who else? What people watching right now?

Chapter 5: What themes about love and relationships are explored in this segment?

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Should be called sci-fi. Nothing annoys me more than the end of, what's the British love movie that comes out at Christmas time? Love Actually. Love Actually. Nothing annoys me more than that movie. First of all. I put it, it might be the worst movie I've ever seen.

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2388.857 - 2392.823 Mandy Moore

I, listen. Wow. That is real shots fired.

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People, people, a hot take for sure. But Homeboy with the cards at the end. We did an homage to that in Paradise. I love that. Listen, that's fine. You know, it's like one of Dan's favorite movies. I do. Homage is fine. But it's so creepy. Him at the door with her.

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Chapter 6: How does Kevin's emotional journey unfold during the bachelorette party?

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This is amazing.

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She's like with his best friend. This is amazing. And he's like. Like, and this is great podcasting, mouthing words.

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2420.865 - 2422.847 Mandy Moore

Well, you should be watching it on Hulu. There you go.

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Day early. So these types of tropes, I don't know.

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2425.951 - 2426.732 Sterling K. Brown

They make you mad.

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They make me a little mad.

2427.513 - 2438.064 Sterling K. Brown

See, it's funny because I have this very sort of strong connection to what I call the triumvirate, which is About a Boy, Love Actually, and Notting Hill.

2438.345 - 2439.346 Mandy Moore

Yeah, great movies.

2439.366 - 2441.128 Sterling K. Brown

Like, I love them.

Chapter 7: What insights do the hosts share about the meaning of marriage?

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Everybody loves that. I never met another person who doesn't like that movie. I understand that I'm on the outside.

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2455.001 - 2465.217 Sterling K. Brown

Come at us, guys, in the comments. Martin Short and an old girl when they're on the adult entertainment set. Not Martin Short. I was like, Martin Short?

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2465.497 - 2469.724 Mandy Moore

Martin Freeman. I was like, Martin Short is- Martin Short's not in that movie.

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I don't think Sterling likes this movie at all. Barton Freeman, yeah. I'm not saying there aren't funny moments in the movie.

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2478.118 - 2483.904 Sterling K. Brown

But just that sort of idealized romanticism is something that you think needs to be checked.

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And also, I just picture if that had happened to me, or you know what I mean? If my best friend showed up at my house and was sending secret messages, I just need you to know that I love you. No matter what. And I had to go to the FedEx office to get these giant poster boards. And I had to buy one of those oversized Sharpies to write these letters out so you could see them from a distance.

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Because I don't want to say these things in front of your guests. But know this. I am sexually attracted to you. It doesn't matter if you're with my best friend. Anyways, have a good Christmas. Merry Christmas. Anyways, Merry Christmas. What? Like, this could turn into a horror film really quickly. Oh, my God. She gets abducted off the front steps.

2528.686 - 2545.915 Sterling K. Brown

What's interesting about this, I love your take versus mine. Because there's this synchronicity of actor and character that's transpiring. Because when you finish saying everything that you say, Randall says to you, you're going to be okay. That's right. The both of you are going to be okay. That's right.

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And it's all parallel, right? It's all like parallel. The pressure that we heard about in the episode before is getting to him.

Chapter 8: How do the fan emails connect with the episode's themes?

2593.48 - 2599.506 Sterling K. Brown

Yeah. Nicodemus. Tobias and Nicodemus. Tobias and Nicodemus. We're going biblical right now.

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There's a spinoff. Uncle Nicky and Toby. I'd watch it. I'd totally watch it.

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2605.112 - 2629.27 Sterling K. Brown

And he says, like, he admits to acting out. He said, I had one chance at love 50 years ago. And I whiffed it, yeah. I totally blew it. And so me sort of speaking out against you is sort of me sort of acting out against myself. And he apologized, which was cool to see, right? Then just, what does Kev say? Or what do I? I didn't say anything. I think then it's Miguel. Oh, Miguel.

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Then it's Miguel. Talks about things being written in stars. Yeah. Some things are written in the stars, like Rebecca and your dad.

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2638.698 - 2638.918 Sterling K. Brown

Yeah.

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And when things started with me and Rebecca, I knew it wasn't like that for us.

2642.804 - 2643.024 Mandy Moore

Yeah.

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Which is also fine. Yeah.

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Not every story is written in the stars.

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