Chapter 1: What insights does a Kiwi in the CIA share about Cold War operations?
A Kiwi in the CIA. Went through the cattle grid there with all the stars on the wall. Determined that I didn't want a little silver fern added to it. Doing a job that took him into deep cover. The objective of someone doing what I was doing was to snuggle up to a KGB officer, if you like, get to know them. A mission that would have personal risks. So I was there for a week or so.
I don't think I slept much, because I knew that if this was going to happen, it wouldn't matter if I was walking around with an M16. they would have got me.
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Chapter 2: What personal risks are involved in deep undercover missions?
We lost a number of agents, assets.
This time, it's a Cold War story raising big questions about our place in this confusing world.
I was head of counterintelligence for CIA at the time when we had some good information coming in telling us that the Russians were trying to influence the election in Trump's favour.
A story where we need to know what's happening.
We need some level of understanding about what New Zealand should be. And do we just follow Trump or we do something different? A window into a secret world of spies and state power.
I don't know where this is going to go with regard to Five Eyes.
It's a long game. You've got to play a long game.
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Chapter 3: How did intelligence operations influence elections during the Cold War?
It hasn't changed since they were wheeling horses into Troy. You know, intelligence work goes on and on.
From Bird of Paradise and RNZ, this is The Agency. Available from April 7 on rnz.co.nz or wherever you get your podcasts.