"AFC Vs The Phoenix In The All Whites"
episodePreviously titled “"AFC vs The Phoenix In The All Whites"” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
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Who are the guests joining the podcast?
Rightio boys, thanks for coming in. Francis de Vries, Bill Tuoloma. How are we boys? Good. Yeah, happy? Been good, yeah. Look at you two teammates now, eh? Yeah. Well, we were back in the day.
I don't know if you guys know this. Back in the day, yeah. Right, okay. We went to high school together, yeah? What, down in Canterbury?
Yeah. Lincoln or something? Lincoln High School, yeah.
That's right.
Okay, yo. I was having a look at your team history, Bill, and it was funny, man. On Wikipedia it's listed, Waitakere United won performance and then straight over to Ligue 1 in France. I think I got it messed up, but it is what it is. So what's happening? So you've got a game Friday night. Yep. Happy? Not happy?
Very happy. Exciting. You know, especially being our last camp in New Zealand.
What are the upcoming FIFA World Cup warm-up games?
Yeah. We want to, you know, go off on our best front foot. And especially with, you know, playing in good teams like Finland and Chile. Yeah. Two good sides, eh? Two good countries, good footballing countries. So it'll be a good challenge for us. Like I said, we're very excited and good to be around an all-white environment again.
I'm sure Jay Lane's about to go into this as well, but a different weight to the badge now it feels a little bit like because there's so much conversation about the World Cup. Do you guys feel that? Is it different playing for the All Whites now knowing that the World Cup might be something that is definitely, you know, a little bit more possible it feels like than maybe previous years?
How do you feel, mate? It'd be hard not to. You guys are going to go to a World Cup. You guys are going to hang out with some big dogs.
Yeah, I mean, the World Cup is the biggest event in the world, you know, and everyone's watching you and, you know, it's... I'm pretty sure for everyone else, it's just a dream for a young kid to go there. It was always a dream for me to go to a World Cup and for it to be around the corner. Going over to the States, Mexico and Canada, and being in front of all the millions of eyes that are going to watch, it's a big deal.
Francis, where were you for the last one? Where were you in 2011 when South Africa was going on?
I remember exactly, high school, watching with my mates, celebrating Rory's goal, celebrating the save, we were talking about that just before.
Yeah, I've been to G-Land just to cram, I've been sitting in here watching the 2010 Bahrain highlights. Oh, okay. Was it Sky Stadium at the time or was it Wellington? Man, packed house in Wellington, the cake tin was fucking reamed. Mark Paston leant down to the right and made that save and then we went to South Africa and then went undefeated. You must have been watching it at the time.
Yeah. I was definitely watching it.
How are the All Whites preparing for the FIFA World Cup?
You were 95, baby. 95, yeah. 95. Yeah, so.
I was actually, that World Cup, I was in the Middle East for my sins. And they had some great setups. They had some great setups there with big marquees on the beach and stuff. And you'd go into them and they were massive. Obviously closed off for Westerners to just drink piss and watch football. And there were heaps of expats there, like heaps of Brits, heaps of Aussies, and quite a few Kiwis as well. And I distinctly remember that Italy game. Oh. And we partied in that tent like we'd fucking won the World Cup. And the fact that it's the greatest spades question of all time, the only team to go undefeated. I mean, it's a big deal, you know, undefeated. Yeah, totally. But it must be pretty awesome for football in New Zealand.
I mean, football's on a little bit of a heater at the moment. You've got the Phoenix and the Auckland FC rivalry. You know, you've got FC doing so well. Fantastic. I wasn't going to bring it up. But the football conversation, it's in the media. Rugby for so long just dominates the headlines. Even if it's going terribly, they still dominate the headlines. And now you've got the fact that the Oceania place in the automatic qualification into World Cups now makes that path a little bit easier, as Mashie said there. You guys must be pretty pumped that now you've got this.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who are the guests joining the podcast?
0:00–0:38
2
What are the upcoming FIFA World Cup warm-up games?
0:38–2:30
3
How are the All Whites preparing for the FIFA World Cup?
2:30–4:01
4
Is there tension between Auckland FC and Wellington Phoenix players?
4:01–6:05
5
What is the significance of playing Finland and Chile?
6:05–7:44
6
How does the World Cup impact players' motivation?
7:44–8:43
7
What are the dynamics of rival players in the national team?
8:43–12:50
8
What are the rapid-fire questions asked in '22 in 2' segment?
12:50–17:04