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"Emergency Podcast: Tony Brown Tell All"

22 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What prompted the emergency podcast episode?

0.031 - 2.056 Joe Durie

Are we live? Is this it?

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2.618 - 3.179 Finn Caddie

This is it.

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3.199 - 13.686 Joe Durie

Jeez, late episode. It's the North Canterbury special today. Myself, Finn Keddie, also known as Mashi, and Jojo, are you with me today? We're fairly depleted at the moment, aren't we?

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14.037 - 14.417 Finn Caddie

Yes.

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14.858 - 22.486 Joe Durie

A lot of questions coming in around where G-Lane is. All we're going to say is just keep an eye on the headlines. Look, things are okay.

22.967 - 23.628 Finn Caddie

Trucking on.

23.648 - 38.644 Joe Durie

Yeah. I think just over the next couple of weeks, you'll see things slowly come out and you'll be like, ah, that's where he's been. No, he's still in Japan on a family holiday. We're here to do a bit of an emergency pod. Not that there's really anything...

38.624 - 53.566 Joe Durie

emergency worthy to discuss but we feel as if we haven't really touched enough on the current state of the all blacks coaching job and this morning it's an important interview There was an important interview that came to our attention. So what we'll do is we'll just do a short agenda today.

53.887 - 68.955 Joe Durie

And I do again, once I apologize that it's late, we'll just do a short agenda, talk about a couple of things and just kind of move on. And we'll come back tomorrow with an episode with James McConey, who I'm sure we'll know a little bit more, even though we actually did text him earlier in the week and he just replied with, I don't know.

Chapter 2: What is Tony Brown's current contract status with the Springboks?

104.956 - 106.918 Joe Durie

As in I am, or he's a big fan of our show.

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106.938 - 108.239 Finn Caddie

He's a big fan of this show.

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108.379 - 128.011 Joe Durie

Yeah, I think he must be. Mike Hosking was teasing an interview coming up with Tony Brown, who of course is in the headlines at the moment because every time we mention our mate Highlanders, Jamie Joseph. Tony Brown's always about the second name that comes out of the mouth, isn't it, for that conversation and getting it back. Of course, there's been a lot of stuff this week.

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128.031 - 144.386 Joe Durie

We've had that lovely meme produced by Arasi Erasmus himself, who the media really got behind and... So people have been wondering what has gone on here. People were also discussing at length this clause in the contract. I think we touched on this on Tuesday with Manai, didn't we?

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144.546 - 145.368 Finn Caddie

Yeah, the art clause.

145.648 - 158.348 Joe Durie

The art clause that I think we've just made up as general fans. So anyway, I was excited. I thought, you know what, we're going to get some answers. Fair to say things got off to a fairly rocky start as these were the first three questions that were asked. Tony, good morning.

158.789 - 165.68 Mike Hosking

Good morning, Mike. Christmas, New Year, talk me through it. Did you have a good time? What's your view on Wanaka being overdeveloped? Did you do the crown range?

165.74 - 176.137 Joe Durie

Okay, so once we got through those three questions there, and by the way, that did take four or five minutes up off this interview. And by the way, he does think that Wanaka has become a little bit too busy.

176.177 - 176.277

Yeah.

Chapter 3: What insights did Tony Brown share about coaching the All Blacks?

865.145 - 876.238 Finn Caddie

Well, let's – Or were they just that arrogant? Oh, I don't know, man. Don't worry. We'll just get those guys. They want to come in. It's a classic. The black jersey. You want to be part of the black jersey. You'd do it all for the black jersey, wouldn't you?

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876.358 - 887.951 Joe Durie

Times have changed. Who would have thought that we're seeing right now in rugby the exact same situation that we've seen in cricket over the last year or so? That we've seen in – Netball. Netball. We've seen in soccer, football about 10 years ago, to be fair.

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888.392 - 890.995 Finn Caddie

American sports about 30 years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

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891.515 - 908.6 Joe Durie

Player power, mate. Player power, right. Since we aren't hearing much, maybe we should just accept this as a challenge and try and create as much rumour and speculation around this whole situation as possible. So if you've heard anything, sing out on either 3236 or via the iHeartRadio talkback function.

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908.62 - 917.393 Joe Durie

We'd love to cover off everything that you have heard as well because we aren't getting harkle at the moment. How much of a rush do you think they're going to be in to replace the head coach, Joe?

917.693 - 929.387 Finn Caddie

I don't think they are going to rush at all. They'll take some time. I think what they should do, if they can't get Tony Brown, Jamie Joseph is coaching the Highlanders, right?

929.527 - 929.727 Joe Durie

Yeah.

930.948 - 937.476 Finn Caddie

I think they should run a competition. Whichever New Zealand Super Rugby team finishes highest on the table becomes the coach of the All Blacks.

937.937 - 938.637 Joe Durie

Okay.

Chapter 4: How does Tony Brown feel about his commitment to South Africa?

955.679 - 960.106 Finn Caddie

A lot of people asking where's the YouTube? Yep. Where's the YouTube episodes?

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960.446 - 961.808 Joe Durie

Yeah, a lot of people asking.

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961.788 - 965.553 Finn Caddie

So many, I had to turn my inbox off. There were so many people asking.

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965.573 - 972.221 Joe Durie

It's like the first Harry Potter when Dumbledore was trying to reach out to Harry to get him to come down and you just got, we got letters coming through the door at a ferocious rate.

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972.722 - 975.005 Finn Caddie

Who was the, is it his uncle?

975.445 - 976.186 Joe Durie

Yeah, Uncle Vernon.

976.306 - 977.828 Finn Caddie

Yeah, fuck, he is a cunt.

977.848 - 979.871 Joe Durie

Yeah. Massive unit.

979.891 - 980.632 Finn Caddie

Massive unit.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of the All Blacks' coaching changes?

1224.777 - 1225.017 Joe Durie

All right.

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