"Game's Gone Soft With David Campese"
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Who is David Campese and what are his rugby achievements?
Welcome along, David Campisi, 101 tests for the Wallabies, 64 tries, World Cup winner, and a man who made a habit of ruining New Zealanders' weekends. Thanks for joining us here on the Agenda Podcast, David Campisi. Now, David, I'm going to have to say, look, I grew up watching you run circles around John Kirwan and the All Blacks and my father throwing cans at the TV screen. Young Mashi here, he wasn't born until 2000 and... Yeah, 1999. 1999. I know you for one reason and one reason only. Do you think you might know why?
Yeah, the goose step.
Yep, there we go. Thank you very much.
I wish I patented it, but the one thing that you guys, the most important fact that you forgot, I made four tackles in 15 years.
Yes. Sorry about that. I'll add that. Okay.
I'll add that to the stats.
Well, actually, before we move on from the goosey, David, do you mind if I ask, did you name it the goosey?
No, mate, I had nothing to do. I think it was the... uh shuffle town uh shuffle town shuffle or something gordon bray or someone did it back in 82 okay or somebody yeah and then i'm the goose that made i had nothing to do with naming it so but you you perfected it though i think david you well i'm sure yeah i'm sure there was a rugby league play i played league most of my life so i think i was about 12 years old playing the place called yes and i got the ball under the post there's two kids ran at me i did something score the other ring came back they knocked themselves out and i said well that definitely worked But I never, ever practiced at a training, ever. I only did in the game.
Oh, shit. Okay. There you go. That's good stuff. Hey, I mean, speaking of which, just doing stuff in the game, never in practice, like how do you reckon you'd go today? Because obviously I feel like players are almost coached within an inch of their lives. How do you think you would survive in today's game with the amount of video analysis and the amount of everything else and you being told what to do? Like, look, Campo, put away that goose step, would you?
Yeah, mate, look, unfortunately, you know, professionalism changes everything. You know, it's an attitude problem. Like if you think about when we play, mate, we're amateurs. Yeah. Even yesterday I was watching the 19, I think it was 66 Wallabies. They were getting a dollar a day and they went away for three months.
Jesus.
But the thing is, you know, the camaraderie, your matemanship, you know, the opportunity to travel the world. I come from Coimbatore, 21,000 people, went to a government school, and, mate, my education was the world, playing rugby.
Yeah.
The people, the friends. Mate, I'd struggle because I'm sick of watching these wingers flying off the wing and leaving their winger to score six tries.
Yeah.
Nowadays, one winger got to try the coach and, mate, you do that again, you're off.
Yeah.
It's all a rugby league. Unfortunately, mate, I reckon they've gone to the point where it's more like watching rugby league now. It's not rugby. You know, guys just running their brick walls, you know, the tackling and all that. It is a very, very different game.
I mean, just going back to when you were at your pomp playing the All Blacks, did you enjoy playing the All Blacks because they were seen to be the best or because you liked to annoy them the most?
What is the story behind the 'Goosie' move?
No, mate, I think it was just at the time. I think I played the All Blacks 29 times and won eight, I think. Yeah. And I say to people, that's a bloody good record. Some people never beat them. So, you know, but the reason why we became good was because we were playing the best.
Yeah.
And they were the best. Then obviously South Africa came into the fray as well. And, yeah, that's how we became good. And also we had coaches who allowed you to do things like Bob Dwyer, Alan Jones. You know, and that helps when they've got that mentality of you've got Mark Eller, you know, Grand Slam 84. Mark wasn't captain, but Mark went to Alan Jones and said, mate, just give me the back line. And Alan said, you can have the back line.
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