Chapter 1: Who is David Campese and what are his rugby achievements?
Welcome along, David Campisi, 101 tests for the Wallabies, 64 tries, World Cup winner, and a man who made a habit of ruining New Zealanders' weekends. Thanks for joining us here on the Agenda Podcast, David Campisi. Now, David, I'm going to have to say, look, I grew up watching you run circles around John Kirwan and the All Blacks and my father throwing cans at the TV screen.
Young Mashi here, he wasn't born until 2000 and... Yeah, 1999. 1999. I know you for one reason and one reason only. Do you think you might know why?
Yeah, the goose step.
Yep, there we go. Thank you very much.
I wish I patented it, but the one thing that you guys, the most important fact that you forgot, I made four tackles in 15 years.
Yes. Sorry about that. I'll add that. Okay.
I'll add that to the stats.
Well, actually, before we move on from the goosey, David, do you mind if I ask, did you name it the goosey?
No, mate, I had nothing to do. I think it was the...
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Chapter 2: What is the story behind the 'Goosie' move?
No, mate, I think it was just at the time. I think I played the All Blacks 29 times and won eight, I think. Yeah. And I say to people, that's a bloody good record. Some people never beat them. So, you know, but the reason why we became good was because we were playing the best.
Yeah.
And they were the best. Then obviously South Africa came into the fray as well. And, yeah, that's how we became good. And also we had coaches who allowed you to do things like Bob Dwyer, Alan Jones. You know, and that helps when they've got that mentality of you've got Mark Eller, you know, Grand Slam 84. Mark wasn't captain, but Mark went to Alan Jones and said, mate, just give me the back line.
And Alan said, you can have the back line. So when you've got players like that, you know, I mean, very instinctive, you know, Prado body, very similar like that as well. You know, you actually get to understand the game a lot better. And when you go across, mate, you've got eight weeks of rugby, you've got 18 games. You know, you get 20 quid a day.
It's more about the prestige of winning and beating the bastard for your country.
Yeah, nice. Well, it's good to see some of those full tours are coming back. Obviously, the All Blacks this year going out to South Africa for about a good four or five weeks, playing some provincial teams and doing the three tests. It's good to see. Do you miss that kind of thing?
Do you think that's a good direction? Oh, look, that was the tour in life, you know. You get to see... opportunities to go around the world and just your sightsee a lot as well because you're not training. Well, it's very different. We used to train like an hour every day, have lunch, then go sightseeing or playing golf. Now, I think there's poor guys that 24-7 rugby.
That's why they say when you look at them, they make a mistake. There's no emotion. Our day, we used to get really annoyed if we made a mistake.
Yeah.
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Chapter 3: How does David Campese view the current state of rugby?
And I hear much, I don't know if you know yet, but you are the manager of the Wallabies Classics. Is that right?
Yep.
Yeah, well, I'll be there some way. I don't know what a manager does. I hope the players don't give me shit to manage shit I gave to the manager last week.
Just a couple of beers, I think, on the sideline is your duties for that game. A couple of reds, mate. Reds. Reds, okay. No reds. Yeah, you're right. Very good. Because this is, I mean, for those of you who don't know about the kind of classic All Blacks, they play, I think they played in Spain last year in front of a sold out. Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
A sold out. against the national team over there. So you might have a bit of a battle against you there, Campo, because in the New Zealand squad, they've got Nehi Milner-Scudder on the wing, Chris Marsoi, Jason Eaton, who plays a bit of cricket as well. So it's a solid-looking All Blacks, classic All Blacks team you're coming up against. Do you know who you've got lined up for you guys?
Oh, mate, I'm sure we can find a few players.
No, we haven't. We've got Andrew Walker, Palu coming, Willie Palu. Yep. So we've got some really good players. A lot of the guys obviously are very keen because sometimes now, you know, I feel sorry for some of these players that are professionals and they sort of retire and they're forgotten, you know, straight away.
So, you know, we try to get Quade Cooper, but I don't know, the booze might have been a bit too hard for him. No, we love him. He's a Kiwi boy. Yeah, we've got players who are pretty excited as well. I think it's great for them just to get together because, as I said, mate, once you retire, people forget about you very quickly, which is very sad. Yeah. And I think this is just a great concept.
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Chapter 4: What was it like playing against the All Blacks?
And obviously we're looking forward to returning the favour next year. So hopefully in the Gold Coast. So there's plans there. But it's just going to be an unbelievable opportunity for these guys to obviously play, not represent Australia, but get an opportunity to see their mates, have a bit of fun and beat the Kiwis again.
I'm sure it'll be a good aftermatch too. So it's Saturday, 25th of April, 2.30pm at Stadium Taranaki. Tickets available at ticketech.co.nz from $10. It's a value for money. It's also live on TVNZ1 and on TVNZ+. And you can tune anywhere around the world on Rugby Pass TV. That's going to be an absolute cracker.
Key sponsors, obviously, Venture Taranaki and New Plymouth Event Venues and New Plymouth District Council. It's going to be an absolutely cracking weekend. If you are anywhere near there on the NZ Weekend, go down there, say hello to Campo, give him a glass of red wine, give him to tell you a few old war stories. Just one. One that never ends.
What does the rest of the day look like for you now, Campo? I mean, you're joining us live poolside, actually, on the Gold Coast. You mentioned before we fired up the recording, a lovely spot, very jealous. I think I heard a couple of bits of wildlife in the background. What's day-to-day life for you these days?
Mate, yeah, just working with Matthew Kosolke, who's ā we're in liquidations and all that, unfortunately. Oh, buddy. Sorry to hear that, mate. The ATOs. Yeah. And the way the economic situation is going around the world, mate, so I think we're going to be pretty busy for a couple of years now. So, yeah, it's pretty good. It's actually out to get out and about.
I'm coaching at a school under 13s.
Oh, good man.
Nice. That's the only team they'll trust me with.
I bet they must play free-flowing rugby there under 13s, surely.
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