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The Agenda

"On The Road To The Black Clash"

16 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the Black Clash event?

0.233 - 5.359 Finn Caddie

Rightio, I think we're recording here. Boys, morning Manoa. Good morning. How are you, motorized?

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5.379 - 6.921 Manaia Stewart

Happy New Year, season's greetings. Good to be back.

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6.941 - 21.938 Finn Caddie

Yeah, same to you. Yeah, we've just spent the last 25, 30 minutes on the road currently heading to Black Clash, where to much the excitement of the agenda riding, no doubt, we're about to pull out of the car park of the Red Fox Tavern, where in which we are going to embark on our second ever...

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21.918 - 46.272 Finn Caddie

route based podcast where if you do wish to drive the same route you can sync this podcast up and oh right thought you guys have been rooting and uh travel along with us so a lot happening uh yeah in the last 48 hours so we'll just go to the intro get that out of the way and then we'll come back and chat a bit of razor stuff so live from the mobile export beer garden studio this is uh the agenda for let me swipe down on my phone so i can see the date friday the 16th of janet

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46.252 - 54.608 Unknown

The Agenda Podcast, the home of sporting nonsense and claptrap. Brought to you by Export Ultra.

54.728 - 73.293 Manaia Stewart

And I guess for anyone who's travelling past the Red Fox Tavern, not open at 10.30 in the morning, much to my chagrin, but they do have a special on at the moment, Soup of the Day. Oh, yeah. Soup of the Day today and every day, beer. And that is written on a chalkboard outside the Redbox Tavern.

73.554 - 77.129 Finn Caddie

Was there any insight to what soup it was? Was it pumpkin? It wouldn't be pumpkin up here, would it?

77.27 - 78.013 Manaia Stewart

No, it's beer.

78.533 - 91.789 Finn Caddie

Oh, sorry, beer soup. Well, no, beer is the soup. Oh, right, okay, I really missed that gag. No, we got that. Too busy trying to focus on my levels here. By the way, for those that are listening in the car, we do have Joe Jerry with us as well.

Chapter 2: What conspiracy theories surround Razor's firing?

351.659 - 371.971 Manaia Stewart

Right. So I had plans to observe the treaty, but my Australian bosses said, no, we don't do that kind of thing. You certainly don't. And so they said, no, you've got to work. So Razor and them had scheduled a meeting with New Zealand Rugby, which is in the same building as me, for Waitangi Day, thinking no one's going to be in the building. Right, okay. They know. Big money's in there.

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372.913 - 387.038 Manaia Stewart

A journalist of note, a journalist of some renown, and I saw Razor come in, and I said it on the radio, and about three people were listening, and they were like, no, he's not. But anyway, I saw him. When the Razor thing was happening with Fozzy, this went on for months, remember? Almost a year.

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387.098 - 388.48 Finn Caddie

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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388.5 - 392.086 Manaia Stewart

This has almost come out of the blue. It's sort of, you heard murmurings about it.

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392.106 - 395.993 Finn Caddie

Well, there was an article on Tuesday based around Arty, is that right? Even Wednesday.

396.153 - 397.896 Manaia Stewart

Yeah, and then 48 hours later...

397.876 - 398.457 Finn Caddie

He's gone.

398.477 - 399.038 Manaia Stewart

He's gone.

399.118 - 405.107 Finn Caddie

Can this be traced as far back to Leo McDonald leaving about three matches after the start of the Razor era?

Chapter 3: How does Razor's departure affect New Zealand rugby?

921.586 - 922.908 Manaia Stewart

You need to be Googling, yeah.

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Chapter 4: Who are the top picks for the Black Clash performers?

925.351 - 938.077 Manaia Stewart

Dalton Papali'i, who, I don't know, a senior member of the All Blacks 15, who declined to go and play for the All Blacks in the last test of the year, also wasn't picked in the squad to start the year. You know what I mean?

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938.097 - 943.747 Finn Caddie

Yeah. I mean, is it to do with the fact that he wears sandals at music festivals? I saw them. They were rugged sharks. Did he?

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944.148 - 945.05 Manaia Stewart

Yep. Rugged shark sandals?

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945.19 - 947.314 Finn Caddie

Yeah. He wore old school. This was only last year as well.

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947.354 - 955.748 Manaia Stewart

I do wonder if being, you know, an All Black does afford you the right to take a few fashion choices. Yeah. Chances, rather. Yeah. A few risks?

956.049 - 976.073 Finn Caddie

You know, it was actually amazing. There was a bit of an altercation going on to the right of me in a Hidden Valley about a year ago. And this man just kind of comes over with his shades on. He was wearing a... a Chelsea shirt and some Tavis sandals, some Rugged Sharks sandals, sorry.

976.654 - 992.642 Finn Caddie

And then he just kind of picked up, he just picked up this man and then just kind of shifted it and then looked to the ladies that were standing around us and said, are you ladies all right? And then turned around and walked away and it was the most impressive kind of five, six seconds I've ever seen from a man. It was Dalton Papali. Yeah. So I've only got good things to say about Dalton.

992.923 - 994.386 Finn Caddie

So hopefully he can come back.

994.426 - 1013.671 Manaia Stewart

Good. That is how you do it, right? Good looking sucker too. I think I saw him at Cook's Beach this year. Reach out, Dalton, probably, if that was you. I saw it. Dane Coles and I. Dane Coles and I had this really weird interaction at the Riverside Market this year where I walked past and I was like, is that my mate Josh?

Chapter 5: What are the implications of the new coaching strategies?

1308.278 - 1318.233 Finn Caddie

Of course, we are heading down to the mountain. I think this is the first time I've mentioned the Black Clash so far. When's that on? We'll be right back. Okay, we're back. Hopefully, you've heard an ad there.

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1319.656 - 1323.461 Manaia Stewart

I reckon it was the Diamonds on Richmond ad.

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1323.602 - 1326.386 Finn Caddie

You don't think it was Azura talking about the dry cleaners?

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1326.646 - 1341.076 Manaia Stewart

Oh, yeah. Did you hear about the boat? Oh, okay. Keezy telling you to come down and see them at the Black Clash. And that, for any young aspiring broadcasters out there, is a segue because we're on our way down to the Black Clash. We certainly are.

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1341.096 - 1347.409 Finn Caddie

We'll be seeing them tonight. What's the – should we start with the itinerary? We've got – I mean, the three of us are currently heading down right now.

1347.609 - 1348.431 Manaia Stewart

It's 10.47.

1348.411 - 1363.814 Finn Caddie

And I think our first place to be is we're touching base at Bay Oval just to kind of have a look at the party zone. We'll post a few things up on social so you can have a look and make sure things are moving nicely if you are coming down or coming up this weekend.

1364.114 - 1381.693 Manaia Stewart

And to give you a heads up for anyone who is coming down when we do not have the caravan with us. And I don't know if we've been banned from bringing the caravan down because the last time we brought it down for the Tradies 11 was when the hatch on the roof broke off. Yeah, that's right. We never found that. Then we put an umbrella up.

1381.713 - 1382.535 Finn Caddie

He could have killed someone.

Chapter 6: Who are the key players to watch in the Black Clash?

2002.007 - 2027.246 Manaia Stewart

Yeah, he does. Wags, you know what I mean? He's one of those classic. Short in the armpit. Yeah. I want that right up in there. He's such a nice guy to meet. It's like when you meet UFC fighters or boxers or even just your mate who trains a bit of karate. Yeah. They're always the most chill people outside of the ring because they get it out, you know, on the field and that's what Wags does.

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2028.108 - 2037.741 Finn Caddie

Actually, before we move on from Neil Wagner earlier in the show, you were talking about a couple of Razor conspiracy theories. I have heard on Good Authority that Neil Wagner is actually a big conspiracy theory guy.

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2037.873 - 2058.746 Manaia Stewart

Oh, is he? Yeah, he loves it. We'll ask him what he thinks of Razor then. Lou Vincent is our hunch for tomorrow as well to be the top run scorer at $7. Put $100 on that. If that comes in, $600 into the kitty. But that's interesting because he's got so much competition because Jesse Wright is in that team as well.

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2058.766 - 2065.517 Finn Caddie

Oh, now this is the one to watch this weekend. This could go any way.

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2066.054 - 2083.601 Manaia Stewart

As we enter the beautiful town of Paidua, the Casa Mexicana Motel on our left. That's actually quite nice, that, isn't it? That is. I'd say that. Why it's there, I'll never know. Why would you make Mexican-themed here in Paidua? Looking forward to driving past the big bottles.

2083.701 - 2094.357 Finn Caddie

So what is Jesse Ryder? Like, I haven't seen Jesse Ryder play cricket in some time. I know what he's capable of on field and off field. Yeah, so... By the way, in all fantastic ways.

2094.792 - 2100.479 Manaia Stewart

Most recently, he has been playing indoor cricket, and I believe he represented New Zealand at indoor cricket.

2100.499 - 2101.721 Finn Caddie

Oh, that's good. So he can play the hip.

2101.961 - 2107.608 Manaia Stewart

As well. So he can still swing it. I mean, as long as he can walk and chew gum at the same time, he'll be able to swing a cricket bat.

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