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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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The classic of everyday life, white yogurt. You're listening to the Anfield Rap. My name's Adam Smith, and this is what football means to me. In this episode, I'm chatting with Andy McCann. Andy will be known to long-term Anfield Rap listeners as a regular contributor to shows. As he tells me, his first memory of football was actually about playing it.
Growing up in Old Swan, Woodhall Road, tight terraced houses, not as many cars as you see today parked on the side, so you had a bit more space outside my ma's house. And it's kind of a, I suppose it's a hybrid between, it's using a footy, but for a different game, which... I'm presuming most of the listeners will know it's Kirby. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so you're playing different versions of Kirby but with a footy. So you'd have a football and you'd obviously play Kirby. I'm presuming if you don't know what it is, you're trying it to Kirby. It comes back. If you catch it, you get bonus points. The ultimate is if you do it, you can hit that curb, it bounces back and hit this curb. It's like you're the king of the street.
So there's a bit of that. And then where I grew up, we lived in the next row to my nan. So we were Woodall and I lived in Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald Road from Old Swan goes right along and there's a BT kind of factory at the end of the road. It's weird because it's like in the middle of all the terraced houses in the state.
But next to the block, the building, was one of them painted goals, you know, on a wall. So it was a wall and it was a little bit of a space
And I think there's a lad, I think he's either been on The Wrap, or The Wrap have definitely featured him on something, has done a project called Urban Goals, and he's done, like, a project where he's took pictures, he's gone round all the best, and the one by Where I Grew Up featured on it, I think it was, like, it got into the top ten, but...
I think it votes, and it was just there, playing footy there with, you know, as a six-, seven-, eight-year-old, just playing footy with schoolmates, and then, like, the older lads would come and rub your ball. You'd play three and in, heads and volleys, all that. And then, yeah, just that, really. That was where kind of the passion come from.
So is there a point at which you remember it moving from kicking a ball to watching the proper teams playing?
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Chapter 2: What are Andy McCann's earliest memories of football?
It was the first time I remember really watching it, really kind of being like, oh, this is what watching football is about, not just playing it. And we lived, as I said, in Woodall Road, the house. We lived next to a family of Blues, so we had like an entry between us.
Right.
and they had all their blue and white and my mum had done all those red and white I vividly remember that and then the other one that I vividly remember is on the day of the cup final or like the men going I didn't get to go to that one I went to the 89 one but didn't get to go to the 86 one and I remember just like being I don't know if I was crying but I remember being absolutely fuming do you know what I mean and then as soon as the kind of the coaches or the cars had left or the fellas had woke up
Chapter 3: How did growing up in Old Swan shape Andy's football experience?
to the main street just going back in then and sitting and watching um the build-up like grandstand and you know like they used to because there wasn't as much access to footy then as there is now like seeing the players behind the scenes or seeing them at training and stuff was like a rarity so i kind of remember from 10 o'clock in the morning just watching the build-up to the final all day
It's definitely one of the biggest losses, I think, is that excitement around the FA Cup final because it definitely used to be a thing where you'd sit and watch it, as you say, the coverage all day, regardless of who was playing almost. It was the big event and obviously the likes of the...
the way the Champions League has now become so massive and things like that, it's just of, you know, secondary, tertiary importance almost now, isn't it?
Yeah, it's really sad, like, and I'm, you know, I always think I want to champion it, but the reality is, I think like all of us, tertiary, as you say, it's probably the third thing you'd want to win and,
like i remember um last year my lad my lad plays and and what have you and he'd had a cup final on the day of the fa cup final and um he won it like and we all went back to the pub like a pub sponsors us and we went back and we were it was a lovely day i remember it being a bit like it has been today here but
didn't even watch it so the fa cup final was in inside on inside the pub and we were all like in the beer garden we'd put like a flag off for his team and that and hardly anyone went in yeah yeah and it like we were there for the whole duration of the fa cup final it was city palace on it do you know what i was about to say i can't i couldn't even tell you who won it and now that you've said it i know exactly what happened but just in that moment you were speaking about that i was trying to wrap my brains to think who was it that played in it
and i remember like being in the beer garden walking in to get like a pint and looking and going oh they have a cup of finals on like 10 minutes in but then just getting the rounding and going back out yeah yeah and then i i've the only thing i remember of the whole like day or that other than celebrating our lads win was seeing that they were beating them and i went back and went our palace should be in city there and everyone was like yeah but no one like moved in to watch it at any point it was just and
As you said, I'd say even 10 years ago, definitely 15, 20. That's the whole everyone's inside watching it, aren't they, rather than sitting outside.
Well, they probably moved the cup final that your lad was playing in.
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Chapter 4: What was Andy's first experience watching a live football match?
Yeah.
And it just always makes me laugh that, like, you know, FSG's thing of, you know, we're doing it in line with inflation. You're like, well, it don't cost you a lot more. I mean, it definitely costs you more than a fiver for a bus fare and some chips and a can of Coke or whatever. But it's not that much more compared to the ticket prices. So it's funny that that's what it used to be for you.
Yeah, it was mad as well. And I don't remember that changing to where it became more than three grand. I'm sure at some point within that period it probably changed, but I just remember my mum would give me a five and then I knew that was me out the house at 11.
back home at seven or whatever um and then depending what time you got home you'd I'd literally get off the bus the bus used to stop kind of just at our entry so you'd cut through and I'd go in and get 30p or whatever off my mum and then walk down the shop and the pink echo would just be getting delivered like I'd so I'd bin the game and then the pink so you'd get that and then like obviously read about the game you've just been to yeah so did you go to uni?
I did but older right so I didn't I um
a little bit off topic but i kind of had a fledgling snooker career when i was when i was about 16 yeah very like yeah i dipped my toe to so i used to play at scottie's on derby lane and um yeah i made some bad choices and thought i could be probably better than i ever was but give up school not school college i went i went back to do my a levels at west derby and then
Like, you know, done the old one where you don't tell your mum, you're not going. And then one day I came in and I'd basically been that in Scotty's all day playing snooker. And I used to have a deal with the owner where I'd get there at nine, clean the tables till it opened at 12. And then he'd let me play for free then till whenever I wanted.
And then one day I just got in, as you do, walking at like quarter five, as if I'd been at college all day. And I was like, oh, did you have a good day? Yeah, what do you have? And I'd be like, government and politics, business. It was just getting hard. And I just turned around and I just got a fucking big right hook. You lying little bastard.
And she'd been in that day and had a meeting with the head and he'd threw me out. Right.
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Chapter 5: How did the Hillsborough tragedy impact Andy's view on football?
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