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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hello, it's Midweek Extra. We are in association with NordVPN. More from them later. But I want to welcome Keogh. I want to welcome Jimmy. And I want to welcome Dan. And we're here to look ahead to Liverpool's game against Chelsea. That is going to be mainly part three. That is one of two massive games this weekend. They're all massive weekends. But massive games this weekend because on Sunday...
Liverpool women and an FA Cup semi-final at home to Brighton you can be there to cheer them on at St Helens Stadium so we've got three other players in part two talking to me at Melwood yesterday but in part one I do want to do some needs and wants that's what we're going to do for next season but I just want to start Kiel quickly on the on the
announcement this morning about the ticket prices me and neil have done a reaction show that's available for audio for free so if you want to um go and listen to me and neil and talk about that but this is the the first video and audio show we've done since then so it's a it's a big win it's it's a you know, a step forward.
It looked to me like it wasn't going to happen at one point that the two sides looked like they were too far opposed, but they've come together for a resolution that's better for supporters and that's a really positive thing.
massively positive thing we've got to give a lot of credit to the supporters who've been campaigning in particular the supporters groups who've headed up that campaign and when it was first announced it was sort of put across that you know it was a minority that that in this camp and you've seen over the past couple of games that's definitely not the case and you know it's a it's a phrase that's used a lot but unity definitely is strengthening it's a
It's pleasing to see that we've had this many times over the years, going back to when I first started going to the match, where there was a protest over ownership, there's been protests over ticket prices, and the fans always win, so it's probably another lesson for the ownership.
We've seen this a few times over the years where they've backed down, but the point is now they have backed down, the supporters have won, and we've got the resolution that we were after.
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Chapter 2: What are Liverpool's squad needs for the upcoming season?
you know, we will, you know, do the protests if we sort of need to, but I think what needs to be remembered is as supporters, we just want to go and support our team and we get to do that on Saturday and that's great.
I think it's massive and the fact that obviously the games aren't going the way we wanted this year, you know, the Anfield's kind of
atmosphere died off a bit towards the tail end of the season the fact that we're out of all the competitions and then just added to that when we took all the banners and the flags and stuff out of the cup I think you took it for granted as a supporter when you're there every single week and when they're all gone you realise it looks a bit sad honestly it's maddening obviously I sit in the banner and you know obviously looking straight at it and you just think to yourself like you know it's
I think it's said you're taking the soul out of Anfield sort of thing, and obviously that was a massive thing behind the campaign. It was like, you know, you carry on with this, you're going to lose a soul at Anfield, and it's a massive win.
And I think bigger as well, for football in general, you know, I think we've kind of said that through the supporters groups, that this isn't just a Liverpool thing, this is like a full Premier League thing, you know, and I think it's just testament now that other fans can come together, unity and strength and all that, like you were just saying, Kieran.
you know, they can kind of take on these big, massive ownerships and win.
Yeah, you say you're in the upper, you might not get in the lower, there's going to be this young person section, we're all too old, Jimmy, you're going to bail your dad and get in there with all your scallywags.
Yeah, we'll have to swim, aren't we? But you know what, with the ticket freezes, I'm made up to be honest, but the biggest concern for me is what they do after the freeze. So it's the 3% increase for next year and then it's a 27, 28, there's a freeze.
But you look at it and you just want to know what happens after that because they were looking at a 13% rise across three years, which is not good for anybody really, isn't it? So you need to kind of hope that they don't go down that route again come that freeze and The positive thing for me and the young lads as well is the young adult prices are being updated to 24.
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Chapter 3: How have ticket price changes impacted Liverpool supporters?
So we're all going to be in a similar position going into the match in 2027, 2028 than we are now. So it's on the clubs to recognise that they got it wrong and recognise that we're going to be crossing this bridge again in a few years' time and not to make the same mistakes.
Because we have talked about the figures and I understand that from a business perspective the club want to put it up and from a fan perspective they are out of touch with reality. There's going to have to be a solution in the middle and I'm assuming that we're going to be working towards that over the next few years so to avoid this happening again.
Yeah, let's hope so. Let's see how it develops. But yeah, shout out to the supporters board, of course, who put in the hours and who are going to have plenty of meetings over the next couple of years just to divide over the last few months trying to do what is best for our supporters and our supporter culture.
Okay, let's get on with the show that I had planned before nine o'clock when that dropped. And it is all about needs and wants. So this is partly inspired by me trying to teach my six-year-old lad the difference between what he needs and what he wants. So when he says, I need some chocolate, Dad, I'm like, well, come on, you need water.
And so that is what we are going to be focusing on because there is so much that you could do. you know next year so much that we uh possibly want to do but what are the most pleasant things so we'll start with you jimmy just because i've realized i've just i've not sent down the agenda and it's been that sort of day just have a little look at it now mate and you're in there
So if I could get you to separate your needs and wants, what is it you think Liverpool need next season and then what would be the icing on the cake?
What we need is directness, we need speed, we need something going forward. We've kind of lacked that this season, that sort of intensity and that fluidity going forward.
the rumours of the minutes is Yandy Hernandez and he's the one that's floating around and we seem to need but the want has got to be Clara Tskeli from PSG he is unbelievable I just want to get that out there first he is unbelievable by the way he is so good and then you've got Alissé you've got all these top talents who you want but it's unrealistic they're one of the best two, three, four sides in Europe and I did a bit of pie in PSG so well PSG may be the if they go and beat Arsenal hopefully in the next couple of weeks but
Yeah, we need speed, we need directness, we need someone who can go forward and put a ball in the box, because we've not had that, and put the ball in the back of the net. And put the ball in the net as well, to be honest. Especially with us losing Mo. I'd like to see some cover at the back, because we are looking weak, we are looking short, especially at Robertson leaving.
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Chapter 4: What are the key player departures affecting Liverpool's leadership?
And at the end of the day, Robertson going, potentially Alisson going, he is the guy that everyone in that club, in that changing room is going to look to. So I definitely think you've got a point there in terms of we need some senior in there or at least the likes of Subovslai or someone like that to step up.
other than that I think it's up top which kind of worries me because we made a lot of changes up top last season and I think we're going to have to do it again this season we're going to need at least two two wingers I think we went into this season with Rio Ingramoa as Gatpo's understudy I think we can see now after like look at Luis Diaz how much we miss him you know seeing him play in these Champions League semi-finals I think it's it's massive how much we miss him and miss that competition as well whereas
N'Gomo has not really been able to push Gatpo that much. He's kind of been forced into a situation. So I think we need at least two on the right.
Jared Bowen would be one for me we should look at I think if West Ham go down I've said it for about five years that I think he'd be an ideal replacement as an understudy for Mo Salah and I think as a stopgap for a couple of years to kind of almost kick the can down the road a little bit because we need someone that's going to come in that's going to adapt to the Premier League pretty quick and I think if West Ham go down there's a potential could we get him for a bargain price he's Premier League ready England international it'd be a good fit for me erm
Once. I think we're going to need another number nine. Ekotika is going to come out. He's going to be out. Who knows whether he's going to come back as that player. Can we rely on Isaac? He's had injury worries pretty much throughout all his career at Newcastle. So it's that top line. For me, I think we need to strengthen.
And it worries me, the fact that we're potentially going to need a good four or five players. And we did that this season. And look what's happened. We've not settled on a system. Players aren't gelled. God knows where Florian Wurtz is going to play.
So for me, that top line just needs some strengthening and some solidarity as to actually how we're going to set up and how we're going to play and how we're actually going to go forward in a formation because this season, especially towards the back end, we just look like we're trying anything and nothing's really working.
Yeah, I mean, Bowen's an interesting example of I think they might have to think a little bit creatively and that's why I framed the question this way around needs and wants because for me, I agree with Jimmy. I think that number six, I think it is vital. I think moving forward, especially if you want to pay Florian Verton and number 10, which I think surely they do.
It's the whole point of spending all that money on them, build the team around them. I think he needs more support, you know, from it.
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Chapter 5: What specific player positions does Liverpool need to strengthen?
And then with Gertrude, there's potentially coming in as well. I was made up with that. I was kind of devastated that fell through because he'd done a bit of a six stint as well under slot of finals. It's like a double pivot. So we've played a lot of that this season where he'd step into a six kind of a centre on the back end of last season, which I kind of liked the look of him.
John Williams has done it in the build as well, he's played at right back, so it seems Slott does want that type of right back. Yeah, but he shoots that build and he goes through to look for it, so I'd like to go and grab him, because again, he's another Joe Gomez who looks like he could be on his way out as well, after what, 10 years at the club?
So you need someone who can kind of fill that role and improve everyone else, sort of thing, because he hasn't got a bad injury record, so it looks. You need someone who can go on that six, 100%. Like we said before, you need someone who can break up that play, because, again, you don't know what midfielders are going out.
You don't know if McAllister's going to leave, you don't know if Jones is going to leave, and you know Gavin Mayer's going to stay because he signed that big contract, but you don't know what the future holds. So it's like, you'd like to hope that he signs a contract and extends, but you can't be too sure, really, can you? And then going forward, then Gordon's...
go on to the shelf because you can go left right and forward and piss the blue shirts off which is the big which is the biggest thing um but you need someone you need somebody else because you looked at that kind of forward line we had last year where you had ds and gapo left you had nunez and jotted down the middle and then salary keys we do the right you had six options there where it's going into next season you've got half 50s you've got cody gapo and rio and gamaro and an injured
Keyes is going to look out as well. So that's three forwards, one who's playing poorly, one who's 18, and one who's got a really poor injury record. So you look at that going, who the fuck is going to score us goals? So you need someone, you need at least two or three, but you can't go spend stupid amounts of money because we've already done that.
So that's where the big question comes, who fills them boots? And I think Gordon's the right answer, because Newcastle are looking poor at the minute. They don't know what their financial situation's like, so you can go and get him for a good couple million, but it's who else you have either side as well.
Could be doing with Asada though, could you?
I mean, it looks like he's going to go.
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Chapter 6: How does Liverpool's current squad depth compare to previous seasons?
That's what I was about to say about Canate there.
I think there's a little bit of that next, like... And he almost needs permission just to show a bit more. Not necessarily permission. Like, you have leaders in different areas of the pitch, don't you? And if you're playing next to Van Dijk, it's not...
It's not going to be often that you're going to need to do the leading of that back four or your keeper or your midfielder when you've got the team captain next to you. I completely agree with your point. By the way, and I said before, Canarte is the one I'm identifying as the person who potentially steps up, especially if he stays. Because he has got experience.
He's captain France, you know, Sebastian, he's captain Hungary. We have still got...
leaders in this team who on an international level are leading the sides but it just doesn't doesn't seem like it and the one we've just mentioned there so that's like he seems to be the one who you would suggest would be the next liverpool captain but he takes responsibility on the pitch doesn't he he's probably took the most this season but it's still
If I'm going to be a little bit critical, I don't think he's acted like a captain this season. I don't think any of them have acted like a captain this season and that's where my concern is about leadership. You might need to bring one or two in, but bringing one or two in is still... You look at the Klopp side, it was full of leaders. Van Dijk was a captain without never having the armband on.
Jordan Henderson was the team captain, but Van Dijk was just as much a captain. Alisson was just as much a captain. Salah was a captain. You know, there was leaders right across that team. I'm not looking at this team now. There's players who are wearing the armband for the country and there's players who you would suggest to be leaders, but they're definitely not acting like it.
They're shrinking. I think Van Dijk's who I'm more disappointed with this season because normally, if there's an issue, he just goes over and, like you said, with Canadi's presence, Van Dijk's presence makes people shit themselves a little bit. Like, the amount of times Rio gets lumped this year and he just lets it.
go over and say who the are you kicking he's 17 years of age that sort of thing he doesn't do that when when the bruno go when in the day when in the best face going it's it touched his hand he just let it go past him he just let everything seem to bypass him sort of thing and we kind of talk heavily about mentality issues this season and and i think that's been a massive issue because you look at the leader in van vijk and he doesn't look like he seems to be leading the pack he should
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Chapter 7: What strategies can Liverpool employ to improve their performance?
He's getting a run of games, but he'll be frustrated, won't he? Like you say, coming towards the end of his contract as well, potentially on a bit of a shit wage. Players not really playing well in front of him and he's not even getting a chance.
That's where you need players to step up though, because you can't, and you can buy people like leaders who have been leaders at other clubs, but you need people to get it, you need people to get Liverpool and get the sort of culture in it. Curtis Jones has lived in it since God knows how long, because he's been at the club for years.
McAllister, it's obvious Lionel Gravenberch has been here come two or three years now, so they're starting to get it. And I feel like, I know he's not really a leader, but I think Kircher seems to get it in the sense of like, you put your fucking body on the line for the club.
in the way he throws himself into tackle in the way he gets up and he kind of like he's made up and he wins a tackle that sort of thing and I think Canarte seems to get it as well but them sort of people now need to sort of be past the baton on by these players and go a set of fucking bollocks and now take that role on
He was the James Milner in the squad that season.
I am back.
Maybe there is that type of signing to be done. I do love that type of signing to be fair. When a 30-year-old comes in who's won a few things. Gary McAllister. I talked yesterday on the go, I don't want to repeat the same thing, but Gary McAllister told a story to me where he talks about Munger Adhuri random to come to Liverpool.
And he said he had three players, Michael Lowen, Danny Murphy and Steven Gerrard and Robbie Fowler as well. He said, I don't need you to teach them how to play football, I need to teach them how to be a professional. And he came in and his dream was to lift the FA Cup, got the FA Cup, finally went playing and he was gutted.
And I remember what he said to him at the start of the year about letting these young lads learn to be professional and when they're ready to go, they'll go. Michael Lowen won the Cup that day. And Gareth Callister came on.
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Chapter 8: How important is fan support for Liverpool's success in the FA Cup?
Unfortunately, this is the situation you put yourself in when you put a manager on a three year deal and no one would celebrate a new deal now. No one is expecting a new deal now. At the same time, it's a very strange situation to be going into a season where the manager could be off at the end of it.
So, unfortunately, this is the bet we've made for ourselves and Liverpool are going to have to lie on it. And I think what Liverpool are going to do is, I might be wrong here, but I think Liverpool are going to go with him for the season. I think Liverpool are going to try and fill the holes in the squad and give him all the tools that he should require.
And if Liverpool are challenging at Christmas, then I think you might see a new deal for that on the slot. And I think Liverpool are in a battle for fourth or fifth at Christmas. then you might just see Liverpool see the season out and say to that at the end of it. And unfortunately, that sounds terrible now to say we could be sat here in the same position in 12 months' time.
I think it's realistic that Liverpool, you know, if they go again without a slot on the 3rd in January, they'll just see the season out and probably not give them a new deal. If Liverpool end up in a situation where they're really struggling like this year, 5th, 6th, 7th, then they might have to act on it sooner. But I think he's going to be the manager next season.
He's going to have to come out and leave. If we don't win the probably first five, six games... It could turn a bit nasty, I think, for him. Like I say, he's not on borrower time now, but a lot of the fans... Well, he is with fans.
I'd say 8 or 9 out of 10 fans want to change now. And that's not a good start for the season, especially if you don't navigate that market properly. If you can't find the right wingers, if Newcastle don't want to deal with you on Anthony Gordon, you can't get their man down, all of a sudden...
you're shopping for bargains and you're looking at the squad going we haven't got the tools to do this and the managers like I haven't got the tools to do this could get really really sticky so it's a weird situation the managers contract but I think my guess is they're going to run with it and see where we're at at Christmas time and I think if we're challenging they'll get a new deal and if we're about that top four they'll just ride it out
Yeah, I think that's possibly right. Okay, we're going to have a little break in the room. You listeners and viewers are going to hear from me speaking to Zara Shaw, Peter Olsen and Denise O'Sullivan. This was all yesterday at Melwood to look ahead to the FA Cup semi-final for the women on Sunday.
You ring the bell, and DNA gets the game going. From there, you can eat straight to the plate. A very exciting opening, because all of the M&M's from Viaplay Total will be priced at the price of DNA customers. Soon, we'll hit the net for Tötterö. Oh my, what a carnival. This is so much fun. Yes, it is. Life is.
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