The Pub Crawlers Podcast: Down The Local with Neil Atkinson (S1E11)
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What drinks are the hosts having to start the episode?
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Hi, welcome to the pub crawlers and at the local edition. I'm down the boozer midweek with my good friends Neil and Steve for a drink and a chat to distract us from the imminence of a football match, actually, that will represent something of an existential crisis for all of us, but... Less of that later. Anyway, I've come up with a range of fun topics for us to discuss down the local, Steve and Neil. Some pub-related, some very tenuously pub-related. There's a threat. There's an air of threat. Others will emerge with no connection to pubs as we drink more beer. What are you drinking? What have you tooled yourself up with?
I'm on your Butterly, Austin's Brewery, downstairs. Great set of lads. Yeah, I've had the Butterly quite recently, saw it was there, and I went, yep, that'll do for me, thank you very much. Are they implying there's butter in there? I think they're implying that there's a smoothness and a richness to it that you'll enjoy. At no point thought there would be any butter whatsoever in it.
I've never had that pint before. It's a really good pint. But at the back of my subconscious mind, I'm thinking, is there butter in this? Like, can I take the butter out?
Can I have a pint of the butter, please, without any butter? Do you mean a pint of lees, sir?
We were stuck. What are you drinking, Steve? I'm drinking Murphy's. I'm on a real stout thing at the minute. A cask, I'm not sure, it kind of leaves me feeling washed out very often. We were just discussing Sunday night where four pints of cask tipped us both far, far, far over the edge.
I want to talk about Sunday night later, but I don't remember what we were talking about.
No, I know, yeah. So, yeah, Murphy's, which is probably of the three or even four, you might say, stouts currently on the market in Liverpool, is just about the one I'd choose most times.
I'd like to start a bit nostalgically on these things. So, Neil, I want to ask you a question. Do you remember which was the first pub that you and I drank in together?
So that actual answer to that, in a pub sense, is really hard. I think it might be what is now the Vines, if we were to be really limited in terms of defining pubs, because you and I first ran for Almonda Cuba, Did we? And we also drank in Tea Factory. We definitely did that a lot. And I don't know if Tea Factory counts as a pub. A pub bar is OK. Well, it's Almond to Cuba and then Tea Factory. But we also drank in 2007 in The Vines, what is now The Vines.
I was then the vines, it was just then it was the shit vines, now it's the good vines.
There we are, yes, and we drank in there in 2007, and I would say that was the first proper pub, because I think you're being generous with your definitions if you're going to say tea factory, although tea factory back then was both good and comparatively speaking very good.
Yeah, it wasn't a pub. Um... Is there a pub, I'm going to ask you this, a loaded question, I've taken, it's not a loaded question, is there a pub I've taken you to over the course of a 20 plus year marriage, I'll call it, that has made you feel blessed that we met?
How do Neil and Rob recall the first pub they ever drank together?
Yes.
I mean, the blessings are constant. And, you know, like rain, the blessings are constant like rain. Consistent, daily, come in all sorts of forms, sometimes drizzle, sometimes heavy. I mean, obviously, the key one with the three of us around this table, you can make a really strong argument for Kay's. in Edinburgh.
We went to Kay's in Edinburgh together, which is... You know, there's a lot of authorship to who directed whom to Kay's first. Between you and Steve, which has nothing to do with me. Do you know who actually it was? Well, that person, she. Your wife, Steve.
So Amelia Bonner takes credit for Kay's. She says...
She says it was another case of a woman being erased from history, the fact that she actually suggested it first.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What drinks are the hosts having to start the episode?
0:00–3:20
2
How do Neil and Rob recall the first pub they ever drank together?
3:20–8:30
3
What is the “Licence to Sell” book and why is it important for UK pubs?
8:30–14:11
4
How do the hosts describe their memory of Sunday‑night drinking sessions?
14:11–19:29
5
What are the hosts’ opinions on curated versus digital jukeboxes in pubs?
19:29–25:10
6
Which pub games (shuffleboard, pool, quiz machines) do the hosts prefer and why?
25:10–28:42
7
Why do the hosts think cats belong in pubs and how do they get a pub cat?
28:42–32:30
8
What happened to Bertie the cat and how did the group search for him?
32:30–36:41
Speakers
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