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Knicks fire Tom Thibodeau

Wed, 04 Jun 2025

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The New York Knicks have fired head coach Tom Thibodeau. Dave DuFour, Zena Keita, and James Edwards discuss the Knicks surprising move and who they may hire to replace Thibs. Then, Fred Katz joins the show to discuss the Pacers offense vs. the Thunder defense and how the Pacers pull off an upset.Host: Dave DuFourWith: Zena Keita, James Edwards, & Fred KatzExecutive Producer: Andrew SchlechtAudio Producer: Grayson Moody Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Why did the Knicks fire Tom Thibodeau?

1660.826 - 1679.589 Fred Katz

But a way that you can Mess with his process and his speed a little bit. I think the best way to guard a Tyrus Halliburton pick and roll and the Tyrus Halliburton Miles Turner pick and roll is awesome. The Tyrus Halliburton Pascal Siakam pick and roll is awesome. And by the way, Indiana might be the best team in the league at slipping screens.

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1680.789 - 1698.035 Fred Katz

OKC might be the best team in the league at communicating on screens and guarding those screens and rotating after them. You know, there are people on the weak side and they're low men and all that. That's something to watch. But we haven't seen a team really switch just every single

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1699.542 - 1726.276 Fred Katz

haliburton pick and roll like the knicks were not switching haliburton pick and rolls and i think the best way if you can do it if you have the personnel for it is switch the haliburton pick and roll because what happens is then you get the pacers out of what they want to do pacers want to put you into rotation and the thunder a lot of the time have no problem defending in rotation sometimes they it's almost like they put themselves into rotation just for the sake of it because they're like you know what we're going to do it we're going to execute on it

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1727.162 - 1748.549 Fred Katz

But if the Thunder switch those pick and rolls and they have the capability of being able to do that, especially if it's like J-Dub guarding Siakam, and you have Dort guarding Halliburton, you just switch that. That's no problem. Those guys are switching partners. And now all of a sudden you're making Halliburton have to go one-on-one. That's not what they want. They want Halliburton on the move.

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1749.129 - 1770.901 Fred Katz

They want defenders on the move. They want cutters. I think this team is uniquely positioned to be able to switch pick and rolls against those guys. OKC will cross match more than any other team in the league. Probably they're very willing to do it. If they do a lineup where they have, say, one big on the court and

1772.011 - 1800.679 Fred Katz

J-Dub could guard Turner and Hartenstein could guard Siakam or Hartenstein could guard Neesmith and they just sag. Like there are ways that they could just try to figure this kind of stuff out. It's just different from other teams that they've gone up against because they might just want to try to switch that pick and roll up the middle. And that is such a bread and butter play. for Indiana.

1800.839 - 1813.109 Fred Katz

It's such a way that Indiana causes rotation, and I think OKC is going to try to keep itself out of rotation with the guys directly involved in that sort of play, and I wonder how the rest of the defensive matchups get configured because of that.

1813.449 - 1823.017 Dave DuFour

Yeah, if they can blow up that Halliburton pick and roll, it's going to be a short series for the Pacers. It may feel long, though. Fred, before we get out of here, do you want to give us a prediction?

1824.558 - 1845.704 Fred Katz

I don't want to give you a prediction, but I will. I'll I think OKC is the better team. I think OKC has been the best team all season. I'm incredibly impressed with the Pacers run. They're playing amazing ball and I don't think their defense gets enough credit. Offensively, they're obviously awesome, but I think they are way better defensively than people say.

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