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The Athletic NBA Daily

What is wrong with the Cleveland Cavaliers?

19 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

9.143 - 35.13 Dave DuFour

Good morning and welcome to the NBA Daily for December 19th, 2025. I'm Dave DeFore here with Fred Katz and Espera Henney. We're going to talk about the Knicks winning the Cup because it means more, talk about the Cavs and what's wrong with them, and are the Thunder going to kill the trade deadline? What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the show. We're home from Vegas, NBA Cup excitement.

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35.611 - 39.83 Dave DuFour

Fred Katz, we didn't see you in Vegas. You didn't. No. You didn't.

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40.331 - 52.947 Fred Katz

You don't respect the cup? Honestly, I think it's a little invoked to defile the cup is this. I'm kind of pro defiling the cup. Oh, so wrong. I'm going to respect the cup.

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53.648 - 54.769 Es Baraheni

I'm going to zag when everybody else is.

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Chapter 2: What are the highlights of the Knicks NBA Cup championship?

54.789 - 59.155 Es Baraheni

There's been a lot of defiling the cup the last couple of days on this show.

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59.355 - 66.184 Fred Katz

You know? Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, Josh Hart defiled the cup celebration. So why can't I defile the cup?

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66.204 - 67.045 Unknown

That's definitely true.

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68.054 - 84.176 Dave DuFour

All right. Let's talk about the Knicks. They did just win the NBA Cup. That was a really fun game. There will never be proof. Well, do we want to start with that? How come they're not going to hang the banner? And is this going to open up the door for like the Lakers are going to take that thing down? Right.

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84.436 - 108.728 Fred Katz

So I'm going to take you just through the timeline. OK, I'm not going to tell you why they're not going to hang it. I'm just going to take you through the timeline. So none of our reporters, not me, asked the players leading up to the cup final. Do you think if you win, you should hang a banner? Everybody seemed to be fine with it. Mike Brown, you think you should hang a banner? Fine with it.

109.85 - 122.336 Fred Katz

Everybody's fine with it. Knicks received the trophy. Mike Brown receives the trophy. Jalen Bronson receives the trophy. They all celebrate. They all seem genuinely excited that they won.

122.797 - 124.079 Unknown

Yeah.

124.099 - 127.244 Fred Katz

James Dolan does not accept the trophy on the court.

127.324 - 134.555 Es Baraheni

Yeah, he wasn't part of the, because usually it's the owner that comes and accepts the trophy. Which is silly. Yeah. It is silly. Yeah, I agree.

Chapter 3: Why aren't the Knicks hanging the championship banner?

204.24 - 208.586 Dave DuFour

I watched him walk out of the arena, With the trophy in his hands.

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208.606 - 209.427 Es Baraheni

He was very happy.

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209.788 - 212.172 Dave DuFour

Yeah. Great. Now may I defile the cup?

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212.993 - 225.212 Fred Katz

Do it. Yeah. I will defile this thing. Carl Anthony Towns played well in that game. Had a couple of incredibly adventurous passes. Maybe the best pass I've ever seen him make.

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225.232 - 228.895 Es Baraheni

The one Dave called a travel, by the way. Anyway, sorry, go ahead.

228.975 - 235.761 Fred Katz

No, there should be an unspoken rule in basketball, which is if what you did was incredibly awesome, it should count.

235.781 - 239.244 Es Baraheni

That exists. I think that is a rule. If it's cool, it stands.

239.365 - 249.874 Fred Katz

That was more than cool. That pass, OG, was insanity. Carl Anthony Towns played well in that game. Mitchell Robinson had 10 offensive rebounds in 18 minutes.

249.974 - 250.755 Es Baraheni

Yeah, very well.

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