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The Ben Shapiro Show

Debunking The NYT: Iran

26 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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All righty, so somehow the media are fully convinced that the best way for the United States to confront China, to confront Iran, is basically to just do whatever they want. And that seems to be what the media want because the president has been confronting China for two terms and the president has been confronting Iran for two terms.

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And yet, according to the New York Times and the Washington Post, somehow China and Iran have the upper hand. Now, that's a weird thing to say. It just is. It's a weird thing to say. Iran does not have a leadership class. They are all dead. Iran does not have forward military capacity. It's been destroyed. Iran does not have a navy. They're at the bottom of the Strait of Hormuz.

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They don't have an air force. They can't fly anything but low-level drones. Iran doesn't have a functioning economy, but somehow Iran is winning. Meanwhile, China, which has a massive debt problem, a massive demographic problem, and serious military issues as well, by the way, because their military is wildly inferior to that of the United States military. China apparently is also winning.

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It turns out the best strategy, it's all motivated thinking. The best strategy is to make nice with the Chinese, to hug them so close, to give them everything they could possibly want. To go to the Iranians and cut a deal where we free up billions of dollars so they can rebuild their entire military machine.

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I'm not sure what else you're supposed to gain from news analysis from the New York Times that says how Iran gained leverage in the war or this from the Washington Post. China gains major edge on U.S. amid Iran war, intelligence report finds. Again, China has no oil. It receives a majority of its oil from the Strait of Hormuz, which is closed. How is China becoming magically stronger in some way?

Chapter 2: What are the media's claims about America's position against Iran and China?

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It has been able to limit U.S. and Israeli strikes on its energy industry. It even got President Trump to rein in Israel's war in Lebanon against Hezbollah and Iranian-backed militia. Now, most of these points are not true. So, Iran maintaining control over the Strait of Hormuz, were that true, they would be able to ship their own oil out, would they not?

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They would be able to toll ships that were traveling, would they not? They cannot do any of those things. As far as limiting US and Israeli attacks on its energy industry, Trump is not sure that he wants to do that because he is not sure that he wants to destroy the lifeline of a future Iranian regime if they were to moderate.

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He's afraid that hurting the energy supplies in Iran would hurt the Iranian people. And sure, he is concerned that the spike in oil prices that would accompany an Iranian counterfire against UAE, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia.

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As far as the war in Lebanon, the Israelis are still pursuing that military action in Lebanon, and they are likely to pursue it further as time goes on because Hezbollah is, again, not giving up the ghost in Lebanon. Nonetheless, the New York Times did find experts, in scare quotes here, to explain that Iran is winning.

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Nicole Grajewski, who teaches at the Center for International Studies at Sciences Po in France, says, quote, Iran definitely has the advantage here. The U.S. is kind of flailing at the moment. Again, in what sense do they have an advantage? So the idea here is that Iran is pressuring UAE and Qatar, except the UAE wants the United States to go even further.

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Saudi may be lobbying the United States not to go further, but that's only because the United States has not evidenced willingness to go all the way. If the United States were to say to Saudi and UAE, we're toppling the regime, both of those states would be on side. What they don't want are half measures, which again, makes some sense.

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So the pressure is not on the United States in the sense that America is about to be damaged. The pressure is on Iran as to whether or not the regime lasts. But folks, I'm sure that for you, just like for most people, most of their net worth is lined up in their home value. And no one's going to steal your home, right?

Chapter 3: How does Ben Shapiro challenge the narrative of Iran's strength?

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Chapter 4: What evidence does Shapiro provide regarding Iran's military capabilities?

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Iran's strategy, according to the New York Times, of targeting oil fields in surrounding countries has shifted much of the focus of the war to the crucial question of how to get the Strait reopened and how to limit Iranian leverage over it in the future. Efforts to pressure Iran to reopen the crucial waterway have proved unsuccessful.

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Now, again, there are options that President Trump does not want to use, but he certainly could. Nonetheless, according to the New York Times, Iran, though deeply damaged by the war, is likely to emerge from it with a valuable new asset. I assume this means shutting down the shipping in the Strait.

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Having at least partial control over the Strait would not only be a source of revenue for the regime, but also a form of geopolitical strength. Now, they could have done that before. That's the whole point. Do you want a regime that could have shut the Strait at any point? to have a ballistic missile umbrella and nuclear weapons? The answer there is no.

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So again, it is yet to be seen how the war ends. But to suggest that Iran is somehow stronger now than they were before the war is crazy. They just did a thing now that they had to do because they were basically on their last legs. If they had not shut the Strait of Hormuz, that was their last point of leverage, which, by the way, puts them at odds with China, which needs that oil.

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If they had not closed the Strait of Hormuz, and if the Strait of Hormuz were to reopen without their economy reopening, They are still in very, very serious trouble. How about China? Well, the Washington Post is trying to claim that China is benefiting from all this, which is kind of hard to see since their economic growth has slowed and they've been relegated to stealing our tech.

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Nonetheless, according to the Washington Post, a confidential U.S. intelligence analysis details how China is exploiting the war in Iran to maximize its advantage over the United States across military, economic, diplomatic, and other fields.

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