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Ep. 2360 - Here’s the REAL Reason Democrats Are Obstructing ICE

03 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the REAL reason Democrats are obstructing ICE?

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2026 could be an ugly year for Republicans at the polls. That is probably why Democrats are doing what they are doing in Minnesota. We'll get to all of that. We'll be joined by Senator John Kennedy and Matt Walsh and Officer Brandon Tatum. So a big show today. First this year for Valentine's Day, we have something special for you. Take a look.

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Well, Republicans are beginning to pull every alarm that they can find about the 2026 elections. The reason being that there was a state Senate race in Texas that was in a district that President Trump won by 17 points. It shifted 14 points in favor of the Democrats. That's a 31 point swing in that Texas Senate race.

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And Republicans who are close watchers of politics have noticed that a bunch of special elections ranging from Texas to Mississippi to Georgia, deep red areas are moving toward Democrats. Well, the calci markets right now in calci is one of our sponsors. They say 63 percent of people say the Republican Party is going to retain control of the U.S. Senate.

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Thirty seven percent say that they believe the Democrats will take control of the Senate. But those are the worst numbers for the Republican Party this cycle. So those numbers seem to be converging. And the hopes for the Democratic Party in this election cycle are going up.

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The calcium markets also suggest 78 percent of people saying Democrats are going to win the House, only 22 percent saying that Republicans will retain control of the House. And so the question becomes, what exactly can Republicans do about it? Well, there's a fascinating poll from Harvard Harris that is out.

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It shows that Democrats are plus four on the generic congressional ballot, which is a bad number for Republicans right now in the Senate. Obviously, there are a bunch of vulnerable seats for Republicans, including Maine, where Susan Collins, according to various betting markets, is now the underdog in that race.

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In North Carolina, there is a Republican Senate seat that is being abdicated by Tom Tillis. That seat looks like it is leaning toward the Democrats. You have Ohio, where Sherrod Brown is running against John Husted. Sherrod Brown could easily pull that off. So you could easily be at 50 before you know it.

Chapter 2: How are the 2026 elections shaping up for Republicans?

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51% of Americans still approve of President Trump's response to the anti-ICE protests. 47% still approve of his crime policy. When it comes to his most popular policies, deporting criminal illegal immigrants comes in at 73% for Americans. His most popular single set of policies are on immigration. Still, 67% of Americans oppose sanctuary city policies.

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60% of Americans say Democrats are encouraging resistance to ICE and 57% of Americans oppose them doing that. Now, with that said, 44% say that ICE should only go after specific individuals who have committed crimes. 15% say that there should be broad sweeps for illegal immigrants. 29% say both.

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So Americans are pretty evenly split on whether they want to see criminal illegal immigrants targeted only or whether they want to see broader sweeps. With that said, targeting criminal illegal immigrants... is the thing that most Americans approve, which is why, of course, Democrats are trying to necessitate that ICE and Border Patrol go after illegal immigration more broadly.

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And when it comes to PR efforts, trotting out various members of the administration to say over and over and over again that every single person is going to be caught and deported at Home Depot, that is bad politics. Forget about whether it's right or it's wrong for a second. It is not smart politics. In Minnesota, 58% of Americans say ICE has gone too far.

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62% say ICE is violating civil liberties. Now, with that said, 53% of Americans oppose a government shutdown on the issue. So it looks like the Trump administration is actually starting to do the right things on PR with regard to Minnesota. Tom Homan has made an offer to Minneapolis saying, give us your criminals, which is the right policy.

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Again, from a PR perspective, targeting criminal illegal immigrants in the United States is an 80-20 issue with Republicans on the side of the 80 and Democrats on the side of the 20.

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According to the Wall Street Journal editorial board, President Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, said on Thursday in Minneapolis he's working on a drawdown plan for the federal immigration surge there, which will be possible dependent upon cooperation. So he's saying, listen, we will pull troops out of this area, federal agents out of this area, if you work with us.

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Homan's deportation priority, he says, is criminal aliens, public safety threats and national security threats. We've got a lot of them to keep us busy. And he says, in order for us to make this happen without having to put large numbers of federal agents on the streets, we need cooperation with the locals. Quote, more agents in the jail means less agents in the street.

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That means fewer collateral arrests. Now, Democrats refuse to move along with that. The local jail in Minneapolis is run by the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office, and they say we do not assist with or comply with any civil immigration requests from ICE. In our jail, we do not honor administrative detainers or administrative warrants.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of recent polling data on immigration?

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And I said, what are you doing here? And they said, we came to arrest you. And I said, who are you? And then finally they identified themselves. And I said, if you are who you are, then where's the warrant? And they didn't have a warrant, so they had to wait for someone from outside, an FBI guy, to come in to show me a warrant on a cell phone.

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And by that time, I was trying to figure out what was going on to get my bearings and dropped all my stuff. My glasses had fallen on the floor. I'm like, I can't read that. So they had to pick my glasses up and I read it. And still, what does that mean? And then there was a bunch of guys and they took me outside. FBI guys were out there. I mean, it had to be maybe a dozen people.

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Which is a waste Jimmy of resources because I told them weeks before and maybe once or twice that we would, I think my attorney tried to contact them once, maybe twice. That I could just go in and it would have to be the folks who are just working there that day and they wouldn't have to have all these people following me around. It's more than just a waste of resources.

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So they grab you and they take you where? Well, you're right about more than just a waste of resources. They want that. They want to embarrass you. They want to intimidate you. They want to instill fear. And so that's why they did it that way.

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What a hero. What a hero. But again, the reason Democrats are doing this is because they are trying to drive the perception that the Trump administration is focused indiscriminately on everyone across the country who either is an illegal immigrant, not just criminally legal immigrants, or people in the media who are just trying to cover it.

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They're trying to instill the belief in Americans that tyranny is upon us. Already coming up, CNN continues to push forward the inspirational stories of people who are probably obstructing law enforcement. First, starting something new can be really scary. When we launched The Daily Wire, we had all the usual fears. What if no one listens? What if we fail?

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Chapter 4: How does the Harvard Harris poll reflect public opinion on immigration?

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They have a profile of two brothers today, a 16 and 17 year old sibling pair from Chicago. Their teenagers at names are Sam and Ben, but to federal immigration agents they interact with daily. The two boys wielding cell phones and taking down plate numbers are a duo known as the brothers.

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The siblings said they have earned an array of nicknames since becoming dedicated witnesses documenting the Trump administration's Operation Midway Blitz, the turbocharged immigration crackdown that swept through Windy City neighborhoods starting in September. Now, the boys are trailing agents in Minneapolis, following the epicenter of immigration enforcement in the U.S.

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as it shifted north to the Twin Cities. Sam and Ben Luman are trained ice watchers documenting federal immigration agents actions with cell phone video and quickly warning of agents locations with whistles and car horns.

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Their efforts are reflective of a growing movement across the country as thousands of parents, teachers, clergy member and community organizers have sought training on what they can legally do when they see an immigration arrest. The brothers now couch surf between family members' homes and Airbnbs, intent on documenting what some describe as unprecedented aggressiveness.

Chapter 5: What strategies are being discussed to improve Republican chances in elections?

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That is what this is about. Joe Scarborough is now calling ICE a third world paramilitary force over on MSNOW.

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1006.642 - 1037.001 Matt Walsh

i'll tell you what anybody in charge of this force that says if you get out of a car so help me god and you draw your guns you draw your guns you know what we're going to try you we're going to try you for assault this is so out of control and it looks like a paramilitary force from the third world yeah And so police chief, not Antifa Republicans, not Antifa liars on the right.

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She calls the police to ask for help in America from paramilitary type officers. It's disgusting.

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So they're paramilitary type thugs, according to Joe Scar. Again, this is the narrative. This is the narrative.

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By the way, Christina Buttons, who is a reporter for the Manhattan Institute, she investigated a group called the 612 Signal Neighborhood Chat, Defend the 612 Signal Neighborhood Chat, which is a group of professional activists who, again, are there to obstruct law enforcement and to alert criminal illegal immigrants so they can escape ICE and Border Patrol. Well, it turns out that Renee Goode,

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according to Christina Buttons, was apparently active in this group. This sort of activity is designed to elicit precisely the kind of ugly images that you see on your TV. This is what they want. They want it. They desperately want it. This is what they want. And this is why J.B. Pritzker, who wants to run for president in Illinois, is calling Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller monsters.

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Because the horrors inflicted by MAGA aren't dividing us anymore. They're uniting us. They're uniting Americans against the tyranny of Donald Trump. Senate Democrats were right to block ISIS funding, but it's not enough. Kristi Noem needs to go. Stephen Miller needs to go.

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The monsters responsible for unleashing this havoc on American cities, whether they were firing at civilians in the streets or calling the shots from their cushy offices in Washington, need to be investigated and prosecuted.

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And this is a political ploy. It is a political ploy. This is why they are doing what they're doing. It is a political ploy. It's why Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, is vowing that he's going to prosecute federal agents. He does not have the power to do that. Here is Brandon Johnson.

Chapter 6: How are Democrats using ICE to create political narratives?

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I will join them in protest. But they're literally exercising or executing the laws that are on the books that we voted for And not just we, our entire society. Congress has not changed the law as far as I'm concerned. So they're just doing what their job description tells them to do.

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And these nut jobs who are listening to leadership and the Democrat governors and other politicians telling them to go out and harass these individuals who are American citizens, who are swore to an oath. And they're just doing what they're supposed to do and what actually people like myself, and I'm assuming you too, Ben, and Dad,

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we voted for, I mean, we voted for immigration laws to be enforced, but you know, they're effing around and finding out is what's really happening. And it's unfortunate for them.

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You know, Brandon, obviously your local law enforcement officer, what difference does it make when, when local law enforcement cooperates with federal law enforcement, as opposed to what's happening right now in Minneapolis and Chicago and other left-wing jurisdictions where they're basically telling local law enforcement under no circumstances, will you cooperate with ice or border patrol?

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1411.118 - 1437.615 Matt Walsh

ben it makes a tremendous difference it makes all the difference when i was a you know a police officer here in tucson arizona we had what they call the sb 1070 check and what happens is we encounter and on a traffic stop or on a call for service a person who either admits that they're legally in this country they cannot speak english and there's other signs of them potentially being a person that's illegally in america we can call border patrol and have them run a check um

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of their database that we don't have access to. And if they come back and they're clear, we let the person go. Also, if we take them to jail and they cannot prove that they're a citizen, they do not have proper identification, they do not have a birth certificate or anything that can identify them, we put them on what we call an ice hold.

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That means that they do not get released back into society. ICE will come and verify. And if they're fine and there's nothing nefarious going on or they check their status and their status is okay and they have a court appearance soon, they will be released. But if they are a hardened criminal,

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who've murdered people in other countries that we don't know about, or someone that's on a watch list from the federal government that local law enforcement don't have access to, we have it packaged with a bow on top, ready for ICE to take action as necessary. So it makes all the difference. When I was in Tucson, they didn't have to go into the communities and do any of this stuff.

1496.129 - 1515.956 Matt Walsh

I mean, just imagine this, Ben. We, you know, are engaging with tens of thousands of people a day across the entire city over a 24-hour period. You know how many illegal aliens we come in contact with? You know how many people that are committing crimes who are committing local crimes that are also illegal aliens that we come in contact with?

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