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12 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main focus of the podcast 'Clock It'?

1.195 - 2.879 Eugene Daniels

Hey, y'all. It's Eugene Daniels.

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3.159 - 4.622 Symone Sanders Townsend

And Simone Sanders-Townsend.

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4.642 - 8.55 Eugene Daniels

We're the hosts of a brand new podcast, MS Now Presents Clock It.

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8.711 - 13.481 Symone Sanders Townsend

We're starting this show because over our years in D.C., me on campaigns and working in the White House.

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13.601 - 17.449 Eugene Daniels

And me covering it all, plus running the White House Correspondents Association.

17.429 - 22.875 Symone Sanders Townsend

We've learned to see through political machinations and maneuvering, whatever that is, right, Eugene?

22.895 - 30.043 Eugene Daniels

Uh-huh, because right now we're watching the Trump administration try to legitimize itself by hijacking the arts, sports, basically the culture.

Chapter 2: How does culture influence politics according to the hosts?

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See, slapping Trump's name on the Kennedy Center, dispatching ice to the Super Bowl, uploading TikToks set to Nicki Minaj songs. It looks trivial, but this stuff matters.

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So we want to open up our off-air conversations, our group chat, if you will, to everybody.

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45.239 - 50.848 Symone Sanders Townsend

Every Thursday, we'll talk about what we see and hear in the news so you can start to clock it, too.

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Our first episode is out right now, and new episodes drop every Thursday. Subscribe to MSNOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to get the show ad-free. Plus, you'll get an exclusive bonus episode as soon as this weekend.

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63.649 - 86.265 Symone Sanders Townsend

And stay right here to get a preview of our first episode. Then search for Clock It and hit that follow button. No state's race, though, I think right about now is more interesting and more, you know, popping up in my group chats than what's going on in Texas in the Democratic primary between Congresswoman Jasmine Crouch and State Representative James Tallarico.

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The thing that I think is most interesting about this primary for Democrats is that the split in the party is no longer ideological, right? Right. The actual split is whether you want to fight or not. And I think these two people show how different groups in the Democratic Party want to fight, right? Like James Tallarico, he's much more, you know, his demeanor's calmer.

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I got into this because of my students. I got into the classroom in the fall of 2011, right after the state legislature cut $5 billion from our schools. I had 45 kids in one classroom. There weren't enough desks for all those kids, so I had students sitting on the air conditioning unit. It's unacceptable. And that's why I ran for the state legislature.

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It's why I flipped a Trump district that no one thought was winnable.

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And you have someone like Congresswoman Crockett. And she is much more, I think, like a lot of members of Congress that are Democrats, much more in your face.

Chapter 3: What insights do Tony Goldwyn and Myles Frost share about political art?

254.041 - 256.183 Symone Sanders Townsend

Okay, if you start talking off the record.

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256.243 - 257.524 Eugene Daniels

They gonna tell. They gonna tell it.

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257.544 - 261.688 Symone Sanders Townsend

And so she told about a private conversation she had. And to be clear, his comments were problematic.

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261.908 - 269.595 Eugene Daniels

I will say this. His team, when they sent out the sort of apology, whatever, what he said was, I did call him mediocre, right?

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269.727 - 275.855 Symone Sanders Townsend

He said he called his campaign mediocre. And I mean, to be very clear, Colin Allred did not run a stellar Senate campaign.

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He's no longer running for Senate. So what does that tell you?

Chapter 4: What are the implications of the Super Bowl halftime show on politics?

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Well, because Jasmine Crockett came in and kind of like, to be honest, big-footed him out of the race. And there were concerns. I mean, if you talk to Democrats in Texas, like strategists and whatnot, and people that do campaign work, there was a concern about the kind of campaign Colin Allred ran the last time he ran for Senate. When he lost?

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when he lost, and Democrats do believe that this is an opportunity, that this is one of the seats that they can take. Like Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, they are talking about expanding the map. So I just don't think it is ever okay, though. Like, yeah, was his campaign, was he running a mediocre campaign?

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Sure.

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314.158 - 324.427 Symone Sanders Townsend

Should the white man be talking about another elected official and feel comfortable calling him a mediocre Black man? No. And trying to pump up a Black lady? Hell no.

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That's crazy. It makes no sense.

Chapter 5: How do Texas Democratic primary candidates differ in their strategies?

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Thanks for listening. For more, search Clock It and follow the show.

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