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What is the main focus of the podcast 'Clock It'?

Eugene Daniels 0:01
Hey, y'all. It's Eugene Daniels.
Symone Sanders Townsend 0:03
And Simone Sanders-Townsend.
Eugene Daniels 0:04
We're the hosts of a brand new podcast, MS Now Presents Clock It.
Symone Sanders Townsend 0:08
We're starting this show because over our years in D.C., me on campaigns and working in the White House.
Eugene Daniels 0:13
And me covering it all, plus running the White House Correspondents Association.
Symone Sanders Townsend 0:17
We've learned to see through political machinations and maneuvering, whatever that is, right, Eugene?
Eugene Daniels 0:22
Uh-huh, because right now we're watching the Trump administration try to legitimize itself by hijacking the arts, sports, basically the culture.

How does culture influence politics according to the hosts?

Symone Sanders Townsend 0:30
See, slapping Trump's name on the Kennedy Center, dispatching ice to the Super Bowl, uploading TikToks set to Nicki Minaj songs. It looks trivial, but this stuff matters.
Eugene Daniels 0:40
So we want to open up our off-air conversations, our group chat, if you will, to everybody.
Symone Sanders Townsend 0:45
Every Thursday, we'll talk about what we see and hear in the news so you can start to clock it, too.
Eugene Daniels 0:50
Our first episode is out right now, and new episodes drop every Thursday. Subscribe to MSNOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to get the show ad-free. Plus, you'll get an exclusive bonus episode as soon as this weekend.
Symone Sanders Townsend 1:03
And stay right here to get a preview of our first episode. Then search for Clock It and hit that follow button. No state's race, though, I think right about now is more interesting and more, you know, popping up in my group chats than what's going on in Texas in the Democratic primary between Congresswoman Jasmine Crouch and State Representative James Tallarico.
Eugene Daniels 1:26
The thing that I think is most interesting about this primary for Democrats is that the split in the party is no longer ideological, right? Right. The actual split is whether you want to fight or not. And I think these two people show how different groups in the Democratic Party want to fight, right? Like James Tallarico, he's much more, you know, his demeanor's calmer.
Unknown 1:46
I got into this because of my students. I got into the classroom in the fall of 2011, right after the state legislature cut $5 billion from our schools. I had 45 kids in one classroom. There weren't enough desks for all those kids, so I had students sitting on the air conditioning unit. It's unacceptable. And that's why I ran for the state legislature. It's why I flipped a Trump district that no one thought was winnable.
Eugene Daniels 2:10
And you have someone like Congresswoman Crockett. And she is much more, I think, like a lot of members of Congress that are Democrats, much more in your face.
Unknown 2:19
They're killing people in the middle of the street. They decided to execute a mother of three in broad daylight. I don't understand how we are sitting here and acting like this is normal.
Eugene Daniels 2:30
Right. She's much more clear and concise. She seems much more ready maybe to fight Donald Trump the way Donald Trump fights.
Symone Sanders Townsend 2:36
Some would call her unconventional. Some reports have called her and her campaign unconventional. This recently, recently, OK, there was a controversy that popped off on the Internet. The fact that in 2026 campaigns are being and races are being appended by what happens on threads.
Unknown 2:52
Mm hmm.
Symone Sanders Townsend 2:52
I don't know if this was a scheme that Todd set up to encourage people to sign up for threads. Todd is busy, child. But if you weren't on threads, you were not understanding where this came from.
Eugene Daniels 3:06
Exactly. So this is Texas-based TikToker Morgan Thompson. She said she met Tallarico. And this is what she says happened.
Unknown 3:13
Chao.
Symone Sanders Townsend 3:38
Now, can I just say a lot of different conversations have sprouted out from this, but as a former comms person, I will say in this new media landscape where folks are making their candidates available to influencers, people, creators, right? People with platforms that have substantial social media followings, particularly in the state or the district that makes a difference. These are also not... And this isn't a slight to Morgan. I'm not trying to slight her, but it was a private conversation. Like, the creators don't understand off the record.
Eugene Daniels 4:10
No, they do not. So politicians, take a note.
Symone Sanders Townsend 4:13
Come on, take a note, baby.

What insights do Tony Goldwyn and Myles Frost share about political art?

Symone Sanders Townsend 4:14
Okay, if you start talking off the record.

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