The Bill Simmons Podcast
Shedeur’s Slide, NFL Draft Takes, a Nuggets Code Red and Brunson Goes Villain
25 Apr 2025
The Ringer’s Bill Simmons reacts to the NFL Draft before being joined by Steve Ceruti and Van Lathan (2:08). Then, Chris Ryan and Rob Mahoney hops on to talk Thunder-Grizzlies, Nuggets-Clippers, and other NBA playoffs matchups (48:55). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Chris Ryan, Rob Mahoney and Van Lathan Producers: Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Steve Ceruti #ULTRACourtside could get you closer to the game! michelobultra.com/courtside ENJOY RESPONSIBLY ©️ 2025 ANHEUSER-BUSCH, MICHELOB ULTRA®️ LIGHT BEER, ST. LOUIS, MO. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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We have, uh, our final draft guide with the, all the grades, everything's, everything's happening in the ringer, uh, NFL draft show, McShay show. We're silos tomorrow. Uh, go check out all of it. I did some NFL draft here at the top. Uh, I gave my thoughts and just randomly. So Rudy and van joined and we talked about, uh, Sanders and darts.
So we talked a lot of NFL draft at the top and then Mahoney, Rob Mahoney and, Chris Ryan came on to talk about all the basketball that happened today too. It was an incredible, incredible, uh, sports night trying to follow everything. Uh, the games could have been better, but, um, just in general, Thursday, the last Thursday in April. Always a winner. We're going to talk about all of it next.
First, our friends from Pearl Jam. All right. So we just watched the NFL draft and three basketball playoff games all at the same time. It was really great. And I wrote down a bunch of notes for the NFL draft because anyone I wanted to have with me in this first segment is all doing another pod for the ringer. So, you know what? I'm going to solo. I'm a pro. I can do it.
But I did have some thoughts. First of all, the Jaguars trading the second pick to pick Travis Hunter, which was somehow another devastating Patriots moment. I had already mourned the fact that we screwed up week 18. We screwed up our chance to have a top pick and to trade down and get all this stuff. And then the Browns had the second pick.
They get number five, a second, a fourth, and a 2026 for Hunter. And I just, I almost started drinking, but I knew I had a podcast. Um, It's always disorienting when the Browns do something smart. That was one of my first takeaways from this because it's just that usually the Browns lose a trade like this. I thought this was insane by the Jaguars.
I know everyone thinks Travis Hunter is a one-on-one, all that stuff, but I just don't think you trade huge packages like this unless you're getting a quarterback. I think the Browns were thinking the same thing any of us would think if we were in this situation. When in doubt, trade with the Khan family. I think they've become like Vivek and the Kings in the NBA.
I think that Khan and the Jaguars, I think that whole family is the same way. It's like, cool, they're going to overpay for second pick. We can move down three spots, take Mason Graham, get a first round pick, get a second, get a fourth. Sure, let's do that. One of the cool things, though, ESPN covered this in the moment. Like Cam Ward was getting picked.
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